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Originally Posted by Jo S
The more rebellious the Jews were, the harsher the government God allowed to rule over them. It's the reason I don't buy the us vs them victim mentality when it comes to laity/clergy.
I personally question what "spirit" is being enjoyed within the majority of the Local Churches. Freely enjoying the wrong spirit is exactly what I was alluding to, spiritual anarchy. Too much control doesn't solve the problem, it just serves as a wake up call.
If you've truly repented of the false beliefs within the Local Churches and as a result were set free from their authority, then praise God. However if you left on your own accord without repentance then the Local Churches still have authority over you. It's one reason I believe a lot of ex-members struggle to shake off the LC's even after decades.
I know one reason God allowed me to become involved with the LC's was because of sin of my own. Witnessing some of the things within the LC's allowed me to realize that I held similar views which led to pride and an exclusive mentality. Even thought it was a painful process, God used it for good and humbled me.
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So are you saying that God allows the clergy to be over the laity because the laity is rebellious? If so, that is an interesting thought, which I've not considered before. Is that like we deserve the ineffective, fragmented and polarized federal government we now have, because it's basically a reflection of who we've become?
Concerning the spirit the LC now enjoys, you seem to have a much darker view of these ones than I do. Personally, I try to withhold ultimate judgement of other believers, because that's His job - I don't know that I'm qualified. (And it limits the Spirit flowing in fellowship with others . . . ) My view is that they're just lost in a system and haven't yet been shown what I have (by His mercy & grace).