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Originally Posted by Jo S
ZNP, they didn't bow their knee to Baal. Those is the Lord's Recovery have no choice if they choose to stay. They have to bow their knee to Nee's vision. God's grace requires you at least resist evil...
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I was not required to bow my knees to any doctrine, or any teacher. I stated my belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior and I was baptized into the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
That said, I equate bowing the knee to Baal with bowing the knee to money. There is quite a bit that has been brought out in numerous threads whether it is Daystar, Training, PL, Standing orders, LSM, etc. that suggests those taking the lead in the LC have in fact bowed the knee to money.
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Originally Posted by Jo S
I hesitate going to scripture when trying to argue points concerning the Lord's Recovery because when I do, I feel it only validates the movement but if you want to go to scripture, look at 2 John 1:9-11.
"Anyone who runs ahead without remaining in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever remains in His teaching has both the Father and the Son.
If anyone comes to you but does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home or even greet him. Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds. "
The Local Churches teach a false gospel and a false Christ. This isn't about warts, it's about cancer. Warts don't kill but cancer does and with teachings like "losing your soul-life" and "getting out of your mind" these are veiled attacks on a person's very identity and soul. They're types of carcinogens that are imbedded in Local Church doctrine so no matter who the leaders are or the locality you're a part of.. you can't escape them. If you stay long enough, eventually you will get sick.
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You are painting with a very broad brush. The gospel I heard did not mention losing the soul life, I didn't learn about that until I read the book of Galatians. As for getting out of your mind I did not hear that until we were studying Rom. 8. If you are going to claim that every single teaching that you disagree with is a carcinogen then you have surely been well trained by WL. I do not assume that an erroneous understanding of a verse in the Bible is proof that you are not following the Lord. The NT says "if in anything you are otherwise minded the Spirit will show you that".
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Originally Posted by Jo S
Whether one wants to admit it or not, I believe all ex-members that come out of the LC's come out traumatized. Some make no bones about their pain, while others are better at hiding it in denial. While it's necessary as a coping mechanism when facing trauma, denial long term starts to eat away at your soul and when it does you become that pain and it then begins to own you. It's why many of you, even though you physically left, you're still stuck in a Local Church bubble.
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Well I believe that if we are to follow the Lord we must take up our cross. Can't imagine a more traumatizing experience than the cross of Christ. I am not in denial, try reading my testimonies.
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Originally Posted by Jo S
Unfortunately all the thought reform that's a result of false doctrine overshadows any remnants of Christianity that be apparent on the surface of the Lord's Recovery. At what point or how many lies does it take to uncover in their teachings to finally say to yourself that what you were a part of wasn't biblical Christianity at all?
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All it takes is one word from the Lord. I left in 1998. I was there from 1978 to 1998. My 20 years were filled with experiences of the Lord beginning with His leading me to the group and ending with His leading me out.