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Originally Posted by awareness
I came up with it from long ago in the Southern Baptist church. And also, rather recently in the Church of Christ (Campbellites). I also heard it a year or so ago from a extended Southern Baptist family member...
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
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Interesting how those looking for ammo to control and suppress others will cite Paul and not Jesus. My own take is this: Jesus offered freedom. Freedom from sin, from fear, alienation. Even death itself stood down.
And freedom was offered to all. And especially, to those who were pushed down.
Now, Paul came along, and had to remind these newly-liberated folks to respect established social convention. Women still had to respect their husbands, children their parents, slaves their masters. "Do not turn your freedom in Christ into an opportunity for societal upheaval & chaos". Peter also touched this theme: "Although we have but one king, Jesus, we respect the earthly kings who are here for our protection"
But 2,000 years later, social conventions have changed. Slavery is abolished, and women have equality. Except in some fundamentalist sects.
But if you think Christians have grounds for a two-tiered faith, look at Jesus with Martha and Mary. They were engaged and actualized peers, in every sense of the word. (Again, understand the social conventions of those times).
The implications of Mary/Martha/Lazarus and their relations with Jesus, apart from intermediaries like the Twelve, are often ignored, even studiously so. Mary's inferred to be a shy, wilting lily, the prototypical back-row sister... "Oh, she just loved the Lord". No, try again. You missed that one by a country mile. Your word "just" was snuck in, even deliberately, and has no place in that sentence. It's veiled and suppressive cult-speak.