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Originally Posted by OBW

In the writings of others, I still believe that where there is uncertainty over what is OK and what is not, outright rejection can be preferred to risking acceptance of error. If there is truth in it, it is still true and should be able to be found somewhere else that is not so controversial.

Here is a copy of an online article:

Before Azusa Street in 1906, there was the Welsh Revival in 1904. It was one of the greatest revivals ever and perhaps the one with the most tragic end. That's because the spirit of Jezebel cut off the voice of Evan Roberts, a young man God used to set a nation on fire for God.
As history tells it, over 100,000 souls came to Jesus in Wales over the course of nine months. Hundreds of thousands more would come to know the Lord over the next couple of years—and it all started in Moriah Chapel in Loughor, South Wales where Roberts gathered with a few youth and began to pray, "Bend us! Bend us!" and eventually "Bend me! Bend me!"

"It was the very next month that Roberts had his first vision. While strolling in a garden, Evan looked up to see what seemed to be an arm outstretched from the moon, reaching down into Wales," writes Roberts Liardon, author of God's Generals. "He later told a friend, 'I have wonderful news for you. I had a vision of all Wales being lifted up to heaven. We are going to see the mightiest revival that Wales has ever known—and the Holy Spirit is coming just now. We must get ready."The pastor of his church let him start holding meetings on Oct. 31. The meetings turned into a two-week revival marked by fervent faith, strong intercession and late-night services that sometimes lasted until sunrise. Those meetings ignited a revival that spread across the world, including to Azusa Street in Los Angeles. But it wasn't long before Roberts cracked under the strain of the pressure.

"By 1905, Roberts' mind became confused from physical and emotional exhaustion. He began hearing conflicting voices in his head and doubted his ability to distinguish the voice of the Spirit among them," Liardon writes. "He would rebuke his listeners for not being pure of heart, while he became increasingly obsessed with examining his own self for un-confessed sin. He feared most that he would be exalted instead of God and became overly critical of his audiences and church leaders."

The revival finally fizzled out in 1905 when the spirit of Jezebel operating through Jesse Penn-Lewis, a Welsh evangelical speaker and author, beguiled young Roberts. Penn-Lewis seduced and deceived the revivalist in the prime of his anointing.

Penn-Lewis, whose doctrine was largely rejected in Wales and is even now described as apostate teaching by some modern theologians, sought to ride on Roberts' coat-tails. Ironically, this Jezebelic woman flattered him with words that aimed to ease the suffering he was experiencing from the religious spirits in the midst of revival. But her smooth words didn't heal his soul. He suffered a nervous breakdown and went to live at this wealthy woman's home to recover.

"They built their new home around his needs, including a bedroom, prayer room and private stairway. It was there that the great revivalist was confined to bed for more than a year," says Liardon. "Evan became ever more isolated and reclusive as years passed. He refused to see friends, and eventually family. He allowed Penn-Lewis to dictate who he would see, and what he would do. They wrote a number of books together, the first one, War on the Saints, was published in 1913. Mrs. Penn-Lewis stated the book was birthed from six years of prayer and testing the truth. Within a year after the book was published, Roberts denounced it. He was quoted as saying it had been a 'failed weapon which had confused and divided the Lord's people.'"

Although he lived to be 72, Roberts stopped preaching in his early 20s.

https://www.charismamag.com/blogs/th...-revivals-ever

I think the article is a bit subjective and shouldn't be taken too seriously. If there are other objective sources corroborating this, then perhaps it gets more weight. We should be careful in pronouncing what is of God and what is not. In any event, we should be cautious of Penn-Lewis because she was a bit extreme.

I quoted her influence on Nee and the (possible) "Kundalini Spirit" for two reasons: first that Nee copied her outright. Plagiarised. His publisher in the preface to the second edition of "Spiritual Man" had to explain this, saying it was a cultural thing with the Chinese, to show honour for someone's work, to copy it thus. So "Watchman Nee the Seer of the Divine Revelation" must be modified to "Nee the Crib Artist Posing as a Seer". Second, why did the Little Flock openly base itself on a woman's teachings, if a woman is not allowed to speak (teach) in church? Nobody in LSM ever wants to address this question, perhaps because there's no answer?

But I've not read JPL enough to have basis for opinion, but note the 'red flags' of Nee's eager and naiive over-reliance on her work.

Where I see the Kundalini Spirit, if we would call it this, a spirit of bewitching, is that of all the thousands of members, nobody asks these kinds questions, that are so obviously needing to be asked. Why base a movement on a woman's teaching if women are not allowed to teach in your movement? The only reason that I can see that nobody asks this kind of question (among others) is that they've been bereft of their critical faculties, rendered senseless, bewitched. Benumbed, dazzled and baffled and dumb. They don't ask any questions, even the obvious ones. "Just keep calling, brother!"