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Cal · 04-10-2019, 09:04 AM

Kevin,

Well done! Keep doing this. Your insights are helpful.

The "wife only takes the name of the husband" analogy is as you said a cultural not biblical phenomenon, so it is a meaningless argument. It's even worse than that. Wives take their husbands last name, but keep their unique first name, which even the husband happily uses. So "ABC Community Church" could be seen as an identifying "first name" with the surname still "Christ." Either way, Lee's argument falls apart upon examination. As much of his teaching, it only impresses an audience that feels they have no choice but to believe it.

As you imply, distinctions are not division. Division, in fact, is not what "ABC Community Church" does by having its name, but what the LR does by discounting groups like "ABC Community Church." They are masters at straining gnats and swallowing camels.

All of the LR's teachings about "oneness" are really not about oneness (though they have convinced themselves they are). They are about a scorched earth policy of discrediting every group other than themselves. They really feel the Lord is better served by everyone agreeing with and joining them, so to them that end justifies any means they use. This is at the very least frightfully arrogant and at the worst dangerously deluded.

(Also, humble thanks for including my little piece. I forgot I wrote that. I learned something from it!)

04-10-2019, 09:04 AM	#6
Cal Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 4,333	Re: Are All Christian Groups Spiritual Fornicators? Kevin, Well done! Keep doing this. Your insights are helpful. The "wife only takes the name of the husband" analogy is as you said a cultural not biblical phenomenon, so it is a meaningless argument. It's even worse than that. Wives take their husbands last name, but keep their unique first name, which even the husband happily uses. So "ABC Community Church" could be seen as an identifying "first name" with the surname still "Christ." Either way, Lee's argument falls apart upon examination. As much of his teaching, it only impresses an audience that feels they have no choice but to believe it. As you imply, distinctions are not division. Division, in fact, is not what "ABC Community Church" does by having its name, but what the LR does by discounting groups like "ABC Community Church." They are masters at straining gnats and swallowing camels. All of the LR's teachings about "oneness" are really not about oneness (though they have convinced themselves they are). They are about a scorched earth policy of discrediting every group other than themselves. They really feel the Lord is better served by everyone agreeing with and joining them, so to them that end justifies any means they use. This is at the very least frightfully arrogant and at the worst dangerously deluded. (Also, humble thanks for including my little piece. I forgot I wrote that. I learned something from it!)