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Originally Posted by Drake
Yes on Matthew 18.
But no on your concept about what constitutes church government. The “LR” is not church government. In this case the church government included the offending elder and the other local elders that advised the sister to remain quiet. At least, that is what I heard. Apparently she complied with the advice for the interest of the unknowing spouse. Yet, it is understandable in retrospect that would not bring closure. So the last step of v17 applies here and becomes relevant.... that is, no resolution in the church therefore the offending brother should be treated like a Gentile. It’s not only a civil matter, it’s a criminal matter too.
Like I said before, this sister has every right to exercise her rights as a citizen, seek justice, and obtain proper closure. Any action must be in the Holy Spirit of course... and with those whom she trusts.
Drake
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Isn't it interesting that LC action (
really inaction, or wrongful action) was self-servingly designed to "protect"
the interest of the unknowing spouse. How deceitful! If every case was handled in this way, no criminal would ever be held accountable. There is always someone who needs "protecting." The Apostle Paul, however, demanded that "
those who sin should be rebuked before all, that all be in fear." (I Tim. 5.20) Obviously this would include the family of the abusing, molesting elder. I am also a firm believer that those who sin in this way may be restored after repentance to communion as a brother, (e.g. II Cor. 2.6-7) but never be restored to church or ministry office.
For decades Witness Lee protected his
boys from culpability. WL was merely protecting himself and his ministry while the list of victims grew. WL would relocate some of these victims to other churches, claiming that he would "
handle his sons" personally. Yet matters only grew worse.
The so-called and much-discussed "
storms" or quarantines of the late 80's and the late 90's in Anaheim were simply WL coverups for his boys. The facts of history have proven this conclusively. Instead of WL rebuking his sons before all, he attacked the accusers, the
whistle blowers, by accusing them of a vast global conspiracy, branding them as rebellious lepers, worthy of expulsion, and smearing their reputations before all.
WL and the Blendeds should have been imprisoned for libel and slander based on what they did to other men of God for speaking their conscience to protect God's children. What they did was despicable. It was criminal. All to protect known degenerates like Lee's own sons. (
Read what happened to Eli, whose sons were similar. I Samuel 2.12-17, 22-25, 27-34, 4.12-18)
Yet ones like
Drake, who claims to stand up in defense of these victims, remains absolutely silent as to the actions of both Witness Lee and the Blendeds during those pathetic times. The level of dishonesty he displays is appalling. Today's Blendeds (BP, MC, RG, MC, etc.) scammed a hoax on the LC's, which was perpetuated for decades.