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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
I would ask what provoked the rebellion? Did the leaders leave their first love? Were they corrupt? Were they making compromises with the world? Were they playing politics?
I would say those were the things that were the point at which Christianity went wrong.
Considering our experience in the LC, the error began when WL and his sons sinned. This error became codified and established when the elders were forced to sign a loyalty pledge. Think about some of the testimonies on this forum where WL was a huge part of the experience of the saints. If Jesus is not the main experience then that is clearly a problem. Think of all these ones who viewed WL as the "Minister of the Age" that indicates they were following him, that is the error. Think about when they left the fellowship of the apostles to file their lawsuits. That was the beginning of the end.
Comparing the error of Christianity to the error of the Germans in following Hitler, the error wasn't in his election (small percent of the vote). The error was when they agreed to put him in charge and submit to him. There were a number of events that led to that. But that is described in the book of Galatians when Paul marvels that they have left the gospel to follow these nut jobs.
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Thanks for your thoughts and questions.
The slogan "One God, One Bishop" meant the bishop in Rome. This is around the turn of the century, circa when the gospel of John and the book of Revelation were written. Clement is writing concerning elders that got kicked to the curb in Corinth. Clement is listed as the bishop, pope, of Rome by Irenaeus and Tertullian holding office from 88 to his death in 99.
He's declaring that the bishop of Rome is the authority of God on the earth, and those that are not obedient or rebel against Rome are/were rebelling against God.
That's what got me kicked to the curb ; me questioning that Lee was the authority of God on the earth. To me, back in circa 1980, that's when Lee fell, long before the Philip scandal, before Ingalls et al.
And from what I've read that's the way Lee thought of himself, and practiced, before coming to America.
That fall of Lee, and likely Nee, was the same as the fall of early Christianity, and it had to do with the authority of God on the earth.
Did Lee know about Clement of Rome? It's touted that he was a big fan of history. Did he get the idea of the authority of God on the earth from there? or did he get it from Nee? Where did Nee get it from? It's touted that he read all the books of Christianity.
Is the authority of God on earth a thing of Christianity? Was Paul the authority of God on the earth? When did this start? Rome was taking power early on, long before Constantine 325ad, at the turn of the century.
I'm positing that that's when Christianity went south. Am I wrong about this?