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Originally Posted by Ohio
For the record, let's be absolutely certain that the unborn baby is not a woman's own body.
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That's absolutely laughable. Babies are made by making a deposit
into a woman's body. Let's take away the right of a women's body for that too. What happened to Onan, when he spilled his seed on the ground, and not into the woman's body? But that supports your position. Onan brother's wife had no rights there too. You just don't want women to have any rights over her own body.
Maybe your Catholic upbringing is still guiding you. They say birth control, even condoms, are killing of babies.
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Originally Posted by Ohio
The body belongs to the unborn child, who has every right to life.
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The unborn have no rights according to the law. If they did then pregnant women couldn't be put behind bars for a crime. Then the unborn child would be put in jail. It would be slavery of the unborn, who didn't commit any crime.
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Originally Posted by Ohio
Neither the mother nor the State has the right to take that child's God-given right to life.
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Every living person in American has sovereign rights over their body. What you are proposing is that the unborn has more rights over the mothers' body than the mother has. And that's ridiculous. Sorry brother Ohio, zygotes don't have the rights that the mother has.
If we really want to prevent unwanted babies, we should prosecute the man that failed to use a condom, and created the unwanted baby. That would accomplish more than taking away rights of a woman over her own body. But no. We can't control men's bodies, only women's.
Which we can't do even if we reversed Roe v. Wade. I've known women that have given themselves an abortion, with a coat hanger. They unquestionably had control of their own body.
And what about miscarriages? I've witnessed those too, and fished the little zygote baby out of the toilet (it was cute). I guess God decided that the unborn child didn't have a right to life ; the expectant mother got mad at God for violating her body, and taking the life of her wanted baby. God forced abortion on her ... er ah ... them. It happens a lot, so God supports abortion. In cases of miscarriages, God is the abortion doctor. So extreme pro-lifers should shoot Him.
Take it to God bro Ohio, and keep it your pants. Then you'll be doing your part against abortion. Other than that -- in heated arguments about this matter, me taking the no abortion side -- like I've been told by particular women, butt out.
I wonder sometimes, when I see a pro-lifer protesting on the street, if they aren't just misogynists, hiding behind the rights of the unborn. It has appeared that way sometimes. Plenty of pro-lifer men believe in subjugating women. It kinda goes hand in hand, and with the territory.
O me O my, did I offend anybody in this post? Did I infringe? Infringing is wrong. That's why we shouldn't infringe on a woman's body.
And while I'm thinking of infringing on women's body's, I knew a brother in the c. in Ft. Lauderdale, in an argument with his wife, apparently in a rage, infringed on his pregnant wife's body, by knocking her to the ground and giving her a few swift kicks to the baby bump. That's how some men, and I see it in churches around here, feel towards women, like they control them or else.
Give it up. Women have equal rights here in America. The cat's out of the bag. Women are a force of nature ... and politics ... independent agents ... like it or not ... it's a fact.
But we're primates. And we do what primates do ; the males dominate the females. It's a primate thing. So the battle between the sexes continues ... look out bro Ohio, they're pretty smart.