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Originally Posted by Drake
This whole topic is centered on I Corinthians 14:8.... an example there of a battle conducted on a military field. No uncertain sounding of the trumpet. What Brother Lee explained in the last section of the base note is that the ministry is for calling an army to battle. Not everyone is, will be, or wants to respond to that trumpet. Not every American will serve in the military. The army is for the churches but the churches are not required to respond the battle trumpet. They are still genuine churches regardless of their response. So he says we are not talking about something in the Lords recovery (which includes ALL the churches), rather we are talking about the ministry aspect of the Lords recovery. Since the ministry is clearly one part of the Lords recovery and by saying we are talking about something in the ministry and not in the Lords recovery, he is saying the sounding is not for every part of the Lords recovery (ALL the churches).
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Let me remind the readers, that when it comes to "uncertain sounds" from the "trumpet of the ministry," if is LSM which reeks of conflicts and uncertainty.
Let me provide some LC history: After Lee passed away in 1997, Titus Chu in Cleveland tried to work together with LSM according to W. Lee's own vision and direction. Titus Chu had every Midwest worker and elder read all of Lee's pertinent books related to crucial items concerning "the work, the workers, the ministry, etc." Reams of documents were produced and studied by Midwest leaders. Titus Chu looked up to W. Lee as his "spiritual father," and earnestly desired to continue in his footsteps. TC hand delivered these documents to leading Blendeds for further fellowship. To the best of their knowledge, everything was thrown into the garbage. The Blendeds had no desire to fellowship.
These documents of quotes taken from LSM's own books showed that Lee himself was all over the map concerning these topics. His own quotes one day could be extremely generous, and on another day extremely controlling. Take "
Publications" for example. Sometimes Lee encouraged other brothers to write, other times he shut them all down. He fluctuated like the weather in Ohio -- "
if you don't like it, just wait a minute, and it will change."
Talk about uncertain sounds of a trumpet! There was nothing certain when it came to the ministry and direction of Lee! He often ministered on whims, like riding the winds and waves of a tempest in the LC teacup. It's like he was speaking in tongues and only the Blendeds could "properly" interpret! Lee manufactured crises, and then manufactured teachings to explain his crises. The history of Lee is filled with these stories. The call for battle from Lee and LSM was never positive. Rather every call to battle signaled another round of excommunications!
That's why
Drake has little credibility here. Posters like
Trapped, leastofthese, ZNP, and UntoHim regularly dismantle his faulty logic built on sinking sand. Read his posts carefully and you will identify the deceptive mindsets that caused us all to flee that system of error.