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Old 01-09-2019, 10:15 AM   #5107
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Trump told a bunch of lies last night. Sorry to learn you support lying.

Trump said there's a national security crisis at the border. That's a lie. The real crisis is how to handle a historically high number of Central American families and children coming into the country many of whom are asking for asylum. The wall does nothing to solve that problem which is been exacerbated by the Trump administration's policies over the last two years.
This is your opinion. This is the problem with the discourse these days people passing off their opinion as facts. Whether or not the wall will be worth the $5 billion is an opinion, not a fact. Gangs accounting for 80% of the violent crimes in this country is a fact, not an opinion. Gang violence being the biggest issue concerning crime and people feeling safe in this country is a fact, not an opinion.

Describing the border as a "national security crisis" is an opinion, not a fact and not a lie.

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Trump said that innocent people are being horribly victimized by immigrants who commit crimes. As Shepard Smith noted on Fox News last night government statistics show that there is less violent crime by undocumented immigrant population by the general population.
Are you serious, do you even have an idea what a crime is? Saying that a person has murdered fewer people than Hitler doesn't mean that murder is not a crime. 13% of gang members arrested for violent crimes are illegal immigrants. Those are crimes that never would have been committed if they were stopped at the border.

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Trump had promised that Mexico would pay for the wall. That was a lie.
Yawn

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Give in to a liar and the lying will never stop.

This liar needs to go.
So impeach him. If Mueller's report indicates he was involved in felonies I am all for impeachment. But focus on the true story and don't get worked up about this idiotic stuff.
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