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Old 12-14-2018, 05:16 AM   #235
ZNPaaneah
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Oh the irony! I bet that hurt.
This latest discussion began with Ocasio's proposals. We point out that they will have no effect at reversing the damage, nor will they stop any further damage, rather the only result will be to significantly damage the US economy. The response is not to try and find a real solution but rather to get huffy about someone pointing out the flaws in the proposal and to attack anyone who does point out the flaws, quite similar to what McCarthy did to anyone who pointed out his lies (Why are they challenging this, must be a communist). So they (Awareness and Zeek) imitate the very thing they hate.

This judgement has been determined. So a reasonable question is why? At what point was this judgement determined? What did we do?

It is easy to see that once the US built our highway system in the 50s this was a done deal, we were committed to the automobile and fossil fuel. But there is no real argument to be made that Eisenhower could have chosen trains instead, nor is there any real argument to be made that this was not a critical development that had to be made. But that has set in stone our path towards this coming destruction and judgement day.

WWI and WWII made it clear that warfare was now industrial and the armies ran on oil. Hence controlling oil fields was now of great strategic importance. Once again, very difficult in the midst of WWI or WWII to see anyone turning this ship. So the idea that we could have chosen a different path at that point seems absurd.

So then what about 1800, ten million tons of coal are mined in Britain. But for Britain this was far better than cutting down what few trees they had, and the same is true of other countries. Britain tried to keep their textile industry a state secret, but that was impossible. People smuggled the plans out to the US. Again, very hard to see any way that a single country like Britain could have developed without the rest of the world at this point being right on their heels.

In fact it is probably the invention of a national bank that had as much to do with the invention of the steam engine and beginning of the industrial revolution as anything.

I am not claiming that Solomon as "wisest man on earth" should have invented the steam engine, simply saying that it could have been invented then had he done a better job as King. He very clearly disobeyed direct commands in the Bible to not go to Lebanon, and Egypt and across the sea. He clearly disobeyed direct commands to not take their daughters as his wives. Also I am saying that the steam engine was every bit as much a necessity with Solomon's mines as it was later in Britain with their mines. The necessity was there, what they needed was a system where the research and development could have been financed and done.

I am also saying that unlike the 1800s, had Israel invented the steam engine in the days of Solomon that this could have been something that they alone worked on for hundreds of years. By the time the Babylonians show up in Israel to find out about the Sun moving backwards the Israelites could have had solar power, wind power, and have passed through the dirtiest part of this learning curve.

So look closer at the command. 1. Don't go to Egypt for horses -- why? We have replaced horses during the industrial revolution. 2. Don't go to Lebanon for Cedars -- why? Again, we have replaced wood structures with concrete and steel in the industrial revolution. 3. Don't go overseas for treasures -- Why, what possible treasure could the Arabian peninsula have if He is not talking about oil.

If you factor in oil then the Lord's promise that this is a "rich land" is undeniable. The boundaries given by Moses is the Ephrates to the East, Mediterranean to the West, and Red Sea to the South. That is, the entire Arabian Peninsula.
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