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Originally Posted by awareness
I'm just concerned that the Bible could mean the death of us. Not the Bible per se, but Bible believers that dismiss science because of it.
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The point he made was very simple -- if you have a problem with a big carbon footprint then go after those with the biggest carbon footprint. Why not ban private airplanes? Why not limit homes to 500 square feet per person (family of four cannot live in a house bigger than 2,000 square feet)? Enough with the hand wringing. What is the point? The US represents 5% of the world's population. Even if we significantly cut our greenhouse gas emissions we are not going to cut it to 0. So you will have no impact on 95% of the world's population and the other 5% you will only reduce the impact, not cut it to 0. So instead of speeding down the road at 100 we are now doing 98 mph. Whoopty Do.
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Originally Posted by awareness
Believers have a long history of fighting against science. It's called the Good Book, and it is, as you've pointed out, but not when it comes to science.
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Honestly, who is delusional now and who is exercising common sense?
All of Ocasio's claims are pointless and will have no other effect other than bankrupting and destroying the US economy and sending all these industries to Mexico.
We have pointed out that prophecies made 2,000 years ago are now staring the entire world in the face. and your response is that "science advanced inspite of the Bible".
OK, let's see --
1. Jesus says His return will be "as the days of Noah". According to you the story of the flood is a myth, and never happened as described. If that were so, then it would be impossible for the end of this age to be as the days of Noah since it never happened in the first place. Yet, here we are, Time magazine named the Earth as its "person of the year" a few years ago because of the extinctions. We are building "an ark" where we can preserve the seeds and DNA of tens of thousands of organisms because we can see a coming mass extinction. So just as Noah saw a coming flood and built and ark, we also are doing the same, for the same reason.
Not only so, but scientists now have discovered that what we thought was impossible is in fact the truth.
We used to think that if a flood did come from 40 days of rain it would have been a flash flood that would have rolled his boat over. But then learned that the Black sea flooded after the last ice age and would have risen like a bathtub. Oops, one mistake by the scientists.
We used to think there is no possibility of a flood having "gone over the tops of the highest mountains". Yet since then learned that this is precisely what happened at the end of the last ice age when massive dams of melt water gave way and flooded down from the Rockies in the US and the Himalayans in India. These were the biggest and most massive floods we have ever seen in the geologic record.
We used to think that it is totally impossible that it could rain for 40 days and 40 nights, no such weather event. We then discovered that a huge asteroid hit in the Indian ocean and would have vaporized a huge amount of water which would then have been put up into the Stratosphere, encircling the globe and for all we know could have resulted in 40 days and nights of rain unlike anything we have ever seen.
We used to think the story of a boat with all the animals was a myth. But then we discovered strikingly similar stories in 100 different cultures. We also know that every large domesticated animal is native to Mesopotamia except for 1, the llama. Not only so but every large ungulate went extinct on all 5 continents and Indonesia at the end of the ice age. This happened at the same time man appeared. There are some 200 of these animals that all went extinct at the same time. In North America 70 different species like the saber toothed tiger, giant sloth, and Mastodont. It is incredible, how? Did man hunt them to extinction -- absolutely absurd theory without any archaeological evidence. If we had hunted these creatures to extinction our camps would have been filled with their bones and skins. Did man bring diseases? Again, ridiculous -- these animals inhabited many different biomes and would not have all fallen prey to the same disease on 5 different continents, they were far too disperse. The only explanation that can possibly make sense is the flood described by Noah and 100 other cultures.
So what it sounds like to me is that the truth has advanced despite all these naysayers blaming the Bible and disparaging the truth in the word.