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Old 12-12-2018, 05:34 AM   #191
ZNPaaneah
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Our planet is in peril, and time is running out.
Wrong, time has already completely run out on any plan like this. Even 1970 would have been late. The only time we might have had for this plan would have been at the time of Eisenhower, still about 50 years after the science had explained the coming crisis.

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With a new Democratic Congress, we must press for the most comprehensive climate change reforms possible.


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Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & progressive groups like the Sunrise Movement are pushing for a Green New Deal. Specifically this calls for:
  • 100% of national power generation from renewable sources;
  • Just so we understand, this junior congresswoman, not even in office yet, is calling for the shutting down of all existing power stations, and the loss of all the jobs that this will entail.

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  • Building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;
  • I thought that was already being done.

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  • Upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety;
  • Hey, upgrade my house, as long as the US govt pays. So at the same time they are talking about cutting off funding to the US govt and shutting it down she is talking about upgrading every residential and industrial building.

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  • Decarbonizing the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries;
  • How exactly do they do that other than say nice catch phrases that sound good and no one understands.

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  • Decarbonizing, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure;
  • So lets not just put all the people working for Con Ed out of work, lets also put the car industry, train industry and airplane industry out of their misery as well. Now I understand what she means by "state of the art". After she is through killing everyone we'll be back in the stone age.

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  • Funding massive investment in the drawdown and capture of greenhouse gases;
If they can truly fund this then why put everyone else out of business? Everyone is moving towards "state of the art" and higher efficiency, and renewable energy as it is. This should have been number one and if it is truly a massive drawdown it could give us a 20 year reprieve while we move aggressively but responsibly on those other pipe dreams of hers.

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Making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely carbon neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.
After she has put everyone else out of business and shut down all of our major industries she is going to make up for it with this. Not believable.

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The Green New Deal also has racial & economic justice elements to ensure that the poor and people of color do not bear the brunt of climate change catastrophes.
Oh, the justification for this idiotic plan is to make up for racial and economic injustice.

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Is the Green New Deal Ambitious? Yes. Radical? Sure.
Sorry, an idiotic plan.

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But our dire climate situation has made it clear that we are on the edge of catastrophe, and we need to make such changes.
No, the dire climate situation has made it clear that it is too late for anything other than plans on how to adapt and plans on how to buy us time. If it was possible for the world to capture enough carbon to offset the entire yearly increase in carbon emissions then that would be a realistic suggestion. But just because we can capture carbon is not a solution nor is it a treatment.

The question I have is do we have the technology to completely offset the worlds carbon emissions? Is it feasible to do this? Is it economically viable? If so that is something we need to do immediately, if not the focus needs to be on adapting.
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