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Originally Posted by zeek
I can understand your turn to right wing media due to your childhood disappointment with liberal democracy. The question is whether you have just turned to sources that tell you what you want to hear or whether you are pursuing objective facts and thinking critically about what you learn from all sources. If people don't recognize that Trump is pursuing the policies of Obama perhaps they would be helped if Trump ever gave Obama an ounce of credit for anything instead of blame for everything. But of course the pendulum swing that characterizes the two party bipolar disordered partisanship in this country didn't start with Trump. He just exacerbated it.
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First, liberal "democracy" did not "fail me" when Roe was decided in 1973, it was judicial activism on the highest court.
Politics is nasty business. I just heard a story of Dole and Bush 41 -- at one time they had such a heated political contest, yet Dole stood to salute him. Bush41 said, "politics is what we do, it does not define us." Bill Clinton is another politician who rose above the fray to befriend former combatants, and put politics aside. Apparently Trump and the Bush family have long put differences aside. Kavanaugh was confirmed due to Bush 43's efforts.
Regarding Obama, he has changed, at least regarding certain policies I mentioned. That was my earlier point.
I'm not sure which is worse, media or politics. They fuel each other. The arrival of cable news, and now social media, has only made things more toxic.
I view things, not as a line with left and right, but as a circle where left and right meet on the other side. Many liberal views match libertarian views. Some of Trump's policies, eg trade, union jobs, infrastructure, getting out of foreign wars, etc. were very similar to Bernie Sanders and Sharrod Brown, yet politics prevents them from working together on policy. Except for Joe Manchin, no Democrat dares to side with Trump.
Regarding objective news sources, I have studied way too much regarding Trump and Mueller. I have studied Mueller's history as a prosecutor, and it ain't pretty. It is extremely disappointing what I never hear from the media. Anyways, there's little chance that I can ever persuade you on this, but as Americans we all should be concerned with "process crimes."