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Originally Posted by Drake
What I said was:
"The Bible is chocked full of people expressing wrong ideas, misguided thinking, human issues, mistakes, failure, sin, sins, evil, calling out deceptions and erroneous teachings."
and that is not the same as...
"The Bible is chocked full of errors."
.. nor do I believe that the Bible is deficient. Both you wrongly ascribed to me. I believe neither.
Of course, if I did believe those then that would make your conversation much easier....but since I don't you'll have to form an argument around what I actually said. It's better that anyway, don't you agree?
Thx
Drake
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Okay, now we're finding common ground. The Bible is not deficient; it just contains deficient writings. Not the same thing. Okay, good.
By the same token, I can say that the published work of Witness Lee isn't erroneous per se, but rather that it contains many errors. So let's narrow it down, shall we?
One of the chief errors of WL was to miss Christ. Instead, he either saw "the NT believer enjoying grace" or he saw the OT writer vainly trying to please God. Yet the clear NT record, in gospel, Acts of apostles, and epistle, is to see Jesus (Heb 2.8).
It was a kind of freudian slip, to ascribe error to those who expose oneself. (In this I'm often guilty as well, I know).
The other erroneous concept that we see in the ministries of WN and WL is the "it's ok if I do it, but don't you dare" idea. One can preach decentralization one day, and centralize things the next. "Freedom" one day, "restrictions" the next. Depends on the mood of the moment. The MOTA can do this because he's the MOTA, with special needs.
Another erroneous teaching is that God is, after all, a respecter of persons. The MOTA never makes mistakes. The church might crumble, if so.
Which brings us full circle - if the Bible is full of people saying dumb things, can we say the same thing for the ministry? And if not, why is it exempt from the same measure it holds on scripture? After all, ''as ye measure, so shall ye be measured" is the word.