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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!
Not sure your reply has to do with the rapture, does it? (seems more like it's about knowing the day of the 2nd coming . . .)
I started the thread because I thought Nee's write-up of the differing views of the rapture (Greek: harpazo - caught away), which I cited, was laid-out the best I'd seen. And along with it he presents the different authors who held the three basic rapture views. Regardless what you think of Nee, I thought it was well organized and informative, and a good place to start.
However, there are not any current theologians listed, as Nee wrote this some time ago obviously. It seems the overwhelming thought in Christendom these days is that " Before the Great Tribulation Jesus will immediately rapture all Christians to be with Him in heaven for eternity." I don't think I've ever even heard a current preacher speak much on the possibility of something different -- perhaps once or twice in passing, and then any other ideas of the rapture that differed in the slightest were quickly dismissed as being obviously in error.
Lately, I have heard some brothers who participate in different groups around here, talk about how the church will go through the Great Trib. So maybe there are some other views out there starting to circulate.
Does anybody have a reference to TA Sparks and his take on the rapture? All I could find is this: Sparks - Manchild In this he talks about how the manchild is composed of mature believers who will be raptured to the throne for a specific purpose. Another Sparks piece on Overcomers
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Chuck Missler, Robert Breaker, BBC International, Perry Stone and afew others have helped me formulate my belief in a pre trib rapture. I do also believe there will be other raptures during the trib as well as martyrdom.
I believe the 144,000 in Revelation 7 are the same as those in /revelation 14. IF so they were/are raptured. I know other people who believe Rev 7 and 14 are 2 different groups. I am not convinced.
The 2 witnesses are killed and their bodies lay in the street for 3 days then resurrected and raptured in front of a bunch of people.
Then also in Revelation 14 we read:
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
While
I have no proof, it appears to ME people responding positively with a repentant heart to the everlasting gospel
might get raptured.
That is yet to be seen.
And thus you have a
mid trib rapture as well as a
pre trib rapture!
Now Irvin Baxter believes in a post trib rapture. I find his teachings on the last days rather compelling but I respectfully disagree on his views on a post trib rapture.
Blessings