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Originally Posted by Evangelical
So Paul is talking about what we get (authority) as opposed to who we are (born again sons of God). I've never taken issue with the adoptive stance and the organic stance co-existing, I have always thought adoption is from an objective/legal point of view.
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The NT and Paul never say that this is "what we got" rather this is what we are foreordained to get, and it is never that "we get it" but rather it is "through Jesus".
Jesus has been appointed heir of all things. That is done. The gospel that Paul preached was based on this fundamental revelation:
15But when it was the good pleasure of God, who separated me, even from my mother’s womb, and called me through his grace, 16to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles; Gal 1:15-16
The heir of all things.
When we were born again we received a relationship with God the Father, and that is a basis to pray. But you could be the child of a very powerful king and it doesn't mean He is going to respond to every prayer this child prays. Receiving the adoption of sonship indicates a walk with the Lord, submissive to Him.
14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God: 17and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified with him. (Rom 8:14-17)