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Originally Posted by Ohio
For 1500 years God's chosen people were justified by faith in His Son's death on the cross. Read Miller's Church History or Broadbent or Schaaf. God has always had a people who were His own. I already told you that Luther said he was a Hussite -- he began to know these same truths one hundred years earlier -- and Huss learned from others.
There is no "recovery." It was called the "reformation." Go read the history books. Huss, Luther, Calvin, Farel, Tyndale, Zwingli, and thousands more tried to "reform" the Catholic Church. They couldn't do it.
They all got QUARANTINED by the pope, just like so many "reformers" like John Ingalls or Titus Chu in the LC's got quarantined by Lee and the Blindeds.
You and Lee act like there never was a genuine Christian, or a real church, or anyone saved by faith until Luther was born. Absurd. Read church history.
And, like I said, I would not believe a single thing Lee taught about church history unless I have second source corroborating evidence. Luther was not the first MOTA.
And I could care less if you call me a liar. Bible says all men are liars, only God is true!  |
Then there were plenty of heretical groups trying to Reform the Catholics as well, the Cathars for example.
I don't know what history books you are reading.
The history books I read, by real experts, say that Huss did not recover justification by faith.
Experts also do not see Huss, Wycliffe etc as being part of the Reformation. That is why they are called proto-Protestants, in a sort of proto-Reformation. But really they are distinct events at distinct times, each with a slightly different reason for reforming the Church.
The history books I read tell me that the Lutheran and Reformed theology was not a continuation of the groups that went before.
Even if it was, no one advanced it as much as Luther and other Reformers - the actual Reformation.
When presented with the facts, you can't argue ignorance, so if continuing to spread non-facts, these would be considered lies.