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Originally Posted by Drake
Not my experience, awareness. Like Evangelical, I never heard of it described like you are doing... like a strategy of some sort...
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I'm sorry of it sounded like it was a strategy. It was more like it was part of the frenzy in those days. Apparently -- we don't know -- that wasn't your experience either.
But given the way you make it sound, the local church has lost that fire, it's old glory days. OMG! Has it become like every other church meeting in Christendom? The ones I grew up on, grew tired of, and walked away from? Then joined the local church because they were on fire. You make me even happier I got the boot. Thank you Jesus.
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Originally Posted by Drake
Whoa brothers, people might leave so let’s scare them into staying.... let’s tell them about Brother Sonso... he left and got hit by a school bus 3 days later.
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No he was a welder. Shortly after leaving the LC he was welding on an old gas tank, and it blew up. So it was told. Maybe it was made up, tailor-made on the fly, just for me (Christians do lie), I don't know ; I should have known better, it happened that I was welding in those days. It also happened that I did know better. I left ; and am still living, decades later, and God still continues to bless me. Those liars. That'll teach me to trust Christians ... my supposed brothers and sisters. Hey, they took after brother Lee ... oh, and Nee ... oh, and Kangas ... oh, and the Lee chosen elder that gave me the boot (may he rest in peace ... I wonder if he's reigning in Christ? I wonder if Nee and Lee are?)???
It was all clearly a product of the frenzy back then, the glory days, that you apparently know nothing of -- given having to go to dead meetings, and training's, and all ... and listening to dead Ron Kangas. (Kangas was trained to speak profoundly, at Princeton, but he was really dead. His wife Susanne knew. And it's very obvious to me when I listen to him now).
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Originally Posted by Drake
Could there be a situation like that were a brother made a correlation? Sure. Is it a practice? Nah.
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Go ahead, poke fun. I like a little fun. Maybe frenzy is the wrong word. It was more like a fanaticism. I had it. They had it. We all had it.
We were all given to God's eternal purpose. We were all in. The thought of leaving it - the LC - terrified us. The thought of a brother and/or sister leaving it terrified us. And it WAS frantic. We're talking God's eternal purpose.
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Originally Posted by Drake
The reward and punishment of the millennial reign of Christ is another matter altogether. Doesn’t matter whether you fear it or not. Whether one believes it or not.... it will happen just as stated.
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Good old ambition pops its ugly head up again. Ambition was a bad thing when I was in the LC. Troublesome brothers were always branded ambitious.
So it just serendipitously happened, that Lee's teaching on "The reward and punishment of the millennial reign of Christ" just happened to fit right into Lees' Chinese hive mind thinking, and therefore could be used to make brothers even more ambitious to be even more given to his movement?
Sounds like a strategy to me ... brought over from China. Lee knew what he was doing brother Drake. He wasn't Mr. Magoo, stumbling around the west coast of America. . . . haha, or was he? John Ingalls should have known better. That'll teach him (R.I.P.).