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Old 07-06-2018, 07:27 AM   #3847
zeek
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Correct the points that are wrong? Serious?
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  1. Hmmm. I once saw a youtube video of you playing a guitar, so I know that you are a white man from the South.
  1. I play guitar.
    I am a white man.
    Like a lot of Floridians, I'm from the North.

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  2. You obviously are imbued with white privilege,
  3. I think white privilege is something that society confers not something a person is imbued with. Since I look "white", I probably benefit from it in some situations. Likewise, "male privilege" to the extent that exists and applies in social situations.

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  4. hence a racist white supremacist,
  5. That doesn't follow from the previous proposition. I think race is a social construct. Am I completely free of racism? Probably not. We all have prejudices we were enculturated into as children. These often operate unconsciously, but, we can sometimes become aware of them upon reflection. When we become conscious of them, we can decide whether to accept or reject them. If we accept them, we become actively racist. I choose to reject them.

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  6. probably with strong ties to the Klan and
  7. If anyone I know is a Klan member, I'm not aware of it.

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  8. former slave owners.
  9. My father's family came from Alsace-Lorraine in 1871. My mother's family from England, though Massachusetts, Buffalo to Michigan. If they owned slaves I am unaware of it. A great, great, great grandfather fought on the side of the Yankees [not the baseball team].

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  10. You are a Southern Democrat who have historically stood against the emancipation of Negroes.
  11. True. As Bob Dylan said "The Times They Are A-Changin'"
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  12. You need to prove to me that this is not true.
  13. I didn't ask you to prove anything--just to correct me, like I just did you.
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  14. The evidence against you is overwhelming.
  15. No doubt. Lock me up!
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