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Originally Posted by Drake
Well, aron, why didn't you just say that upfront? I will be more than happy to post that footnote.
And yet, it begs the question, why are you referencing and expounding source material to substantiate your argument that you don't have right in front of you? Apparently you don't know what your own reference actually says.
Drake
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Find below the relevant point in the footnote that
aron referenced to bolster his claim of Asian culture in the local churches. Unfortunately for
aron and his cohorts this footnote indicates nothing of the sort. When Brother Lee refers to the churches in Revelation 1:20 being identical in nature, shape, and purpose he is expounding on the example provided by the scripture itself, that of a lampstand...... for the Lord says the "the seven lampstands are the seven churches". As is clear from the imagery of the lampstand it is golden in its nature which the footnote says represents the divine nature. The shape is a lampstand to bear lamps for the purpose of shining in the darkness by burning the oil of the Spirit. The lampstands are identical because God, in His Triuneness, is represented in the nature, shape, and purpose of each lampstand. Each lampstand is golden, each is in the shape of a lampstand to bear lamps, and the lamps burn to shine according to their purpose.
Sadly,
aron, what you did by misrepresenting what this footnote actually said is what some opposers of the Lord's recovery have done in the past. They take a statement out of context and twist it to mean something entirely foreign to its stated meaning. They want it to mean something they can attack.... in other words, they, and you, are engaging in deliberate falsehood by creating a strawman to advance a propaganda war... a form of sophistry. Yet, if you did not read the footnote as you indicated, your argument may not be that sophisticated. ... instead you would be guilty of simply repeating the falsehoods of others without due diligence on your part. Of the two, I'm undecided which is worse.... someone who uses craft to slander brothers or someone who slanders brothers out of sheer ignorance.
Thanks for dialogue.
Drake
Revelation 1:20 footnote 1 (concerning the nature, shape, and purpose of the lampstands). The Recovery Version of the Bible
"The churches, signified by the seven golden lampstands, are the testimony of Jesus (vv. 2, 9) in the divine nature, shining in the dark night locally yet collectively. The churches should be of the divine nature — golden. They should be the stands, even the lampstands, that bear the lamp with the oil (Christ as the life-giving Spirit) and shine in the darkness individually and collectively. They are individual lampstands locally, yet at the same time they are a group, a collection, of lampstands universally. They not only are shining locally but also are bearing universally the same testimony both to the localities and to the universe. They are of the same nature and in the same shape. They bear the same lamp for the same purpose and are fully identified with one another, not having any individual distinctiveness. The differences among the seven churches recorded in chs. 2 and 3 are all of a negative nature, not a positive one. Negatively, in their failures, the churches are different and separate from one another; but positively, in their nature, shape, and purpose, they are absolutely identical and are connected to one another."