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Old 06-09-2018, 02:13 PM   #471
aron
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Default Re: Poor, poor Christianity...

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Did you ever hear Lee say that there were 15 to 20 million shouters affiliated with the LSM on mainland China? I did. And I remember the noise from the crowd when we heard it: it was designed for effect.
When Lee told us from the podium of the millions of shouters in China, it was after a recitation of the numbers of LC saints worldwide. China was presented last, and it was exponentially above any other (maybe Taiwan had several tens of thousands). There was a genuine stir from the assembly - it had the intended effect. Very dramatic.

But Lee the showman was also an accountant who knew to keep two sets of books, and only one got published. (btw this wasn't restricted to Lee alone - it had a cultural element. Lee disciple Dong Yu Lan followed the LC programme to a 't' and ran "Estancia Arvore Da Vida" as his own family business. When of the fund-raising 'co-workers' asked to see the books thy were told it was a "black box" and got tongue-lashed).

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Did it ever get printed? I doubt it. Then deniability was still an option and Chris Wilde could say 10 years later, "No connection whatever" with the mainland shouters.
If you control what is written then you control the narrative. Then you can be as provocative as you want, and appear to be the model of rectitude and sobriety in the 'official' version. Lee loved to get a rise out of the crowd. But he also loved to appear the sober, balanced Bible teacher. So he kept two sets of books.

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Or Kangas saying, "Sometimes I think the only thing worse than a rebellious brother is a spiritual sister." There's headline material. Take that, Dora Yu! But it got buried.
Not only Dora Yu - what happens to Elizabeth Fischbacher? Or Margaret Barber? Or Mary McDonald? Or Jessie Penn-Lewis? Or Madame Guyon? Or Ruth Lee? Or Peace Wang? What would happen if the word spoken by RK from the dias got published? The whole edifice might crumble!

No; better to keep two sets of books. Much less trouble that way.
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