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Old 05-30-2018, 11:50 PM   #7
A little brother
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Default Re: Christ or faith the Savior?

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Originally Posted by Evangelical View Post
In the context, "all things" means all necessary things relating to salvation. If "all things" meant everything, then he would not need to write to them as their teacher.

"you have no need that anyone teach you" is another way of saying "you already have what is essential for salvation so you don't need me to tell/remind you that Jesus is the Christ, and that whoever has the Son has the Father..."...but the purpose of John's writing is to that they may not sin (1 John 2:1) and to warn them about deception (1 John 3:7), not to teach them the elementary truths about Christ, of which they have an anointing that teaches them all necessary things about Christ.

I would say:
God's anointing teaches us the necessary things about Christ for our salvation such that no one can snatch us out of His hand (John 10:28). We can see that it is by the anointing which teaches us about all necessary things about Christ that we are protected from losing salvation. Teachers like John and Scripture are required to teach about things important, but not necessary for salvation. These teachings are not so that we can be saved or not lose our salvation, but so that we "may not sin" (1 John 2:1) and "not be ashamed at His coming" (1 John 2:28). But "if we do sin" (if we ignore John's teachings), then we have an advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1).
Sorry, it doesn't quite make sense to me.

Wasn't 1 John addressing believers who have received salvation? What's the point of the anointing to teach someone already saved about matters only related to their salvation? If we haven't received salvation already, will the Holy Spirit be in us as the anointing?

If 2:27 is in the same context, don't you think it should appear before 2:26 where John wrote "These things I have written to you..."?

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Originally Posted by Evangelical View Post
The consequence of following false teachers for a believer is not that they are in danger of losing their salvation if they do (they have an anointing which prevents that) , but that they may be led astray into sin. A paraphrase of 1 John chapter 2 is this:
"I don't want you to sin and be ashamed at Christ's coming, that's why I am writing to you about these false teachers. If you do follow a false teacher you won't lose your salvation because you have the anointing which teaches you the truth about Christ for salvation, and you have an advocate by which your sins will be forgiven, but please abide in Christ so that you won't fall into sin".
I hope this is not the reason why you aren't worried about following the WL/LSM teachings - that you won't lose your salvation no matter what.
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