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Old 05-29-2018, 07:09 PM   #3
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Default Re: Christ or faith the Savior?

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Originally Posted by A little brother View Post
My previous question was meant to let you understand the "test" is specific as to who is behind the saying of "Jesus be cursed" and "Jesus is Lord", nothing more. If I say "Jesus is Lord, and WL/LSM's teachings are very wrong", the "test" does nothing on discerning whether the second part is from the Holy Spirit or not.
I agree that the test does nothing on discerning about the second part, but I already said that here:

The tests prove if someone has the Spirit of God. The tests are not a test of doctrine or teachings.

Let's break it down :

"The tests prove if someone has the Spirit of God." - this is what the test is about. I never talked about using the test for doctrine or teachings, only you have. I have clearly stated many times that the test is about what kind of spirit a person has.

"The tests are not a test of doctrine or teachings." - This is where I agree that the test does nothing on discerning about the second part, as if the first part was not clear enough already.

This problem is not because I could not answer yes or no to your question, but because you cannot comprehend that I already answered your question sufficiently.

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Originally Posted by A little brother View Post
Great, you have just proved yourself wrong by telling me Paul's test is not enough - You have to say it a certain way. You should not mumble, you have to place emphasis here and there. That is something you added on top of Paul's words.

BTW, in my locality, I don't think I have ever heard the saying of "Jesus is Lord" corporately and in unison in the past few years. But I certainly won't use your "tests" to judge the situation.
My point was that we must be able to hear it clearly - it was about how the test is applied, not "adding to it". It does not say those who "mumble under their breath that Jesus is Lord" does it? It is the same when taking an oath or "swearing on the bible" or getting married - no judge or wedding celebrant is going to accept an incoherent mumble.

Anyway your bias is noted, as you ignore some obvious unscriptural things Jo S said for example about corporate prayer or loud or singing prayer not being allowed but pick apart how I think Paul's test should be applied. That is, you seem fixated on technicalities about scriptural tests but ignore clear unscriptural things another posted has stated that in my view are more of a concern than "chanting" to Jesus.
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