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Originally Posted by Oregon
This particular teaching has been quite a bother to me.....even when I was attending the meetings of the LC. I hope I am not repeating earlier postings although the chance of that being so is probably quite high since this became the central theme of Witness Lee's view and thoughts concerning what he termed...."God's economy". Even though the words and something of the thought can be traced back to Athanasius, this does not at all put any kind of doctrinal authoritative stamp of approval on it....at least not to me. I've asked my brother....a full time participant in the LC this simple question. Why didn't the apostles use this kind of language, especially the apostle Paul, in any of their writings. Of course he had no answer but simply looked at me.
After having been in the local churches for most of my adult life......having pray read literally tens of thousands of hours......called "Oh Lord Jesus"(blessed be our wonderful Lord...not to discredit our Lord at all) umpteen times.....I believe that I have not become one wit more God in life and nature than I was when I first came into the LC at age 17. Peter says we partake of the divine nature. I believe this and feel that I certainly have. Paul says we behold and reflect.....I know this is true also....but becoming God in life and nature.......I have huge questions and doubts about this. My personal experience is this When I stop beholding......I stop reflecting. When I don't partake of the divine nature.....I certainly don't manifest it in my own life.
To me.....it's more like ......the light in the kitchen is either on or off. It didn't slowly become on. Paul said ...."walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh". That is my life and I have no doubt it is yours also. If I walk in the Spirit then I am partaking of the divine nature and I can reflect the one I am beholding. If I don't......I will fulfill the lust of the flesh. Now where in this scenario did I become God in life and nature. I simply participated in the life and nature of another. When I ceased to participate....I was just my fallen self again. How did I become God in life and nature. I suppose for whatever the length of time I walked in the Spirit I experinced God as my life and nature.......I can certainly believe this and see no conflict with what is presented in the writings of the apostles. "Becoming God" though.......that's a whole different story. Thoughts anyone?
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Lately, one thought keeps coming to me regarding the teaching of "Man becoming God." How can they exert so much energy trying to convince people that they are turning into God, when they have so much trouble just being men?
When all is said and done, the only thing that we are to be concerned with is knowing Him. This was Paul's word to the Philippians at a time when he thought he may well have been sitting on death row.
Being able to dissect and fully know all the ins and outs of the "Triune God"? I don't think so. There is no verbiage in the Bible requiring us to nail a doctrine of the Trinity, and there is no verbiage telling us that we are turning into God.
I believe that Witness Lee, and now his lieutenants, are too obsessed with becoming "giants in the industry." They obsess with being the authority on this, and the authority on that. If they would be more concerned with actually knowing the Lord Jesus, maybe they wouldn't find themselves in court so much fighting their brothers.
Paul himself (one of the supposed "apostles for the age") said that knowing all mysteries means nothing if you don't have love. Yet, LSM is anxious to let everybody know that they have nailed all the mysteries concerning the Triune God, and the ultimate anatomical details of how He is dealing with man. They have misaimed, and missed the mark. That is the definition of sin.
Roger