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Old 05-26-2018, 08:25 AM   #32
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Default Re: Christ or faith the Savior?

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Originally Posted by Jo S View Post
You're equating a repeated mantric practice of chanting the Lord's name five times in unison to an initial confession of Jesus' lordship. Two totally different things. Neither of which are required for salvation. To make the point, how then would the mute be saved if a literal vocal confession has to be made as a precursor to salvation?

Paul was using this rhetoric to make a specific point and that was the need to spread the gospel. He was not laying out a linear "5 steps to salvation" list because it simply cannot apply to every person. For example, how would the deaf complete step two?
WL was famous for using scripture to promote his own ministry at the expense of others. The rank and file then were left to defend him. How many times was I interrogated by outsiders over Lee's declaration, "Just call on the Lord 3x and you're saved?"

The concept of "Gaining Christ," while true, can be taken to an extreme, and thus become a horrible deception. Many LC'ers understood "Gaining Christ" as exercising themselves to "take in the ministry." Nothing could be further from the truth. Where is love, obedience, faith, departing from unrighteousness, etc? Does not God look at the heart?

Case in point was during the Ohio quarantines. Bro/sis's were dividing from one another, filing lawsuits, verbal altercations, disrupting meetings, and in many cases behaving worse than the unbelievers, yet they were "gaining Christ" by adhering adamantly to "the ministry." Our Christian walk is not in this way. Compare this kind of behavior to the scribes and Pharisees.

Is this not the worst kind of deception? How do these ones expect to grow, really gain Christ, be sanctified, enter full salvation, etc. by violating all the other commands of scripture?
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