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Originally Posted by Evangelical
Jesus never told anyone to come out of these churches, but to overcome - "to him who overcomes".
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I never said that Jesus did tell them to come out of these churches, that was Zeek. What I said was that the verse in Philadelphia indicates that everyone in that church has had to come out previously and that this coming out did not hinder their status as overcomers.
Here is what Rev 2-3 actually does say:
Ephesus:
5Remember therefore whence thou art fallen, and repent and do the first works; or else I come to thee, and will move thy candlestick out of its place,
So what happens if the lamp stand is removed? You just stay there? Or do you come out?
Pergamum
even in the days of Antipas my witness, my faithful one, who was killed among you
So what happens if like John Ingalls you are forced to leave?
Thyatira
except they repent of her works
Granted there are those in Thyatira that do not know the deep things of Satan. But what do you do once you do know? You are required to "repent of her works". You seriously think that this means you stay in Thyatira?
Sardis
If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief
And what exactly is He stealing? WL's exposition of the Bible, the entire bound set?
Come on, He is taking the precious saints. So where do they go once they have been taken?
Laodicea
Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Jesus is standing at the door of Laodicea knocking, asking for someone to open the door to Him. That tells me He is outside of the church. Just like Hebrews says, "Let us therefore go forth outside the camp unto Him".
He told them
"thou art the wretched one and miserable and poor and blind and naked" they are blind -- He says "behold", if they weren't blind they would see that Jesus is no longer in the church but outside. They think they are rich but Jesus Christ is our riches and He is no longer there, they have been robbed and are poor. They were warned that they would lose their lamp stand and it has been fulfilled, they have lost their light.
You seem clueless to how many questions remained unanswered with your simplistic view.
Like Abraham we have been called to go out to a place where we are to receive our inheritance. If it isn't Ephesus then we keep going. If it isn't Thyatira we keep going. If it isn't Sardis we keep going. We keep going until we get to Philadelphia, only then do we hear the words that we no longer need to go out anymore.