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Originally Posted by zeek
I can't find Drake's original post. Maybe UntoHim deleted it. But I quoted it and responded to it in post number 217.
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Drake: Now here is what I have noticed. As concerns the local churches and His assessments, judgements, commendation, condemnation, and call to individuals to overcome the shortcomings in those local churches many posters here appeal, as a counter to the Lords clear demands in the letters in Revelation, to the sayings of, as aron sums up, "a guy named Jesus" in the gospels. So "judge not lest you be judged" in the gospels is not a direct match to ""But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate." revealed in Revelation. That is because the Jesus revealed in the gospels is not complete. It is part of the story. It is only when we come to Revelation that we see our High Priest, Jesus, caring for the churches in His glorified position in the heavenly tabernacle. There we see not a lowly man on Earth.
I saw this post and I don't think Drake has negated the Jesus we see in the gospels, only the interpretation "judge not lest you be judged" is somehow a condemnation of judging things like the practices of the Nicolaitans.
Even if you look at the portion of the gospels where Jesus says "judge not lest you be judged" he also says "give not that which is holy to the dogs" and "cast not your pearls before swine". Now you can interpret that literally which doesn't make any sense, otherwise you have to interpret that he is telling us to make certain judgements about "dogs" and "pigs".
Therefore I have always concluded that Jesus does not tell us not to judge, that is a very clear misunderstanding. He only tells us not to judge others. Instead He charges us to judge ourselves repeatedly, not only in the gospels but also in Revelation.