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Old 03-21-2018, 10:43 AM   #191
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Default Re: Apostles in The Church: Yesterday and Today

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Originally Posted by Drake View Post
ZNP,
I know you don’t see it that way but every time you interject about others motives and fear where the conversation might lead you expose your own agenda driven motive and not the pursuit of truth wherever it leads. I challenge you to drop that agenda and let the truth lead wherever it will.
Drake,

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is baloney.

Yes, I realize you would like everyone to pretend, as you do, that nothing bad ever happened in the LCM and so such facts should not be part of the discussion. That would be very much to your advantage. We all realize this.

You talk about the pursuit of truth. But what I see in you is the avoidance of truth. And as long as you to continue to deny or downplay the damage done by the LCM system, as far as I'm concerned your appeal to "pursuit of truth" rings very hollow. The truth includes all the facts. None of them can or should be ignored. I have nothing hide. Ask me anything except personal details and I'll answer.

What do you think caused all the problems in the LCM? Do you really think it's because all the victims were "not pure" or whatever? Their stories matter and I will not sweep them under the rug. They are part of the whole picture. You want us to compartmentalize those things as if we can somehow determine truth simply by studying scripture. But the fact is some practices of the LCM, though they might be somehow justifiable by a certain view of scripture, are not verifiable. There are other interpretations that are just as valid. So the fruit they produce should be part of the discussion.

I have never hidden my agenda, though yours is foggy. My agenda is to help people be freed from a controlling organization. If someone likes the LCM and wants to stay there, I have no beef with that. But if anyone thinks or teaches that leaving the LCM is somehow essentially evil or wrong, they are going the hear from me. You can count on that.

If you don't like that, it's too bad. That's what I feel called to do here. If you think I'm misled I suggest you pray for me.

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