"Christians, and people in general, often "quote the Bible" with phrases which are actually not in the Bible. " ~ Nell.
Note that the terms "true and false" repentance are not in the bible either, to my knowledge. Strictly speaking, there is only two possibilities - repentance, and no repentance.
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Originally Posted by Nell
The closest I can come to (1) the above "saying" is this:
1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit (Ghost). (KJV) At that, it's not very "close" at all...nothing about "conversion."
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It helps to know the context of this verse, which shows that it can be used to determine whether one is a genuine convert or not.
The Corinthian church was affected by the Corinthian's pagan and cultural influences. On any given Sunday "church meeting", it is probable that not everyone who spoke messages were genuine Christians. Some people may have been like today's new agers or Hindus who believe in many gods and one of them is Jesus. However, they cannot say Jesus is Lord above all their other many gods.
This verse is the test which Paul gave the Corinthians so they could know who speaks by the Spirit and who does not. Obviously a person who says Jesus is Lord by the Spirit is a converted person as indicated by "no man can say".
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Originally Posted by Nell
(2) "We are the body of Christ, who is God". It's true that Jesus is God, but this "term" implies that body of Christ is God...hummm. We really need a scripture reference for this "term"!
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The body must be the same as the head or it will be a monster. It would be like an animal with a horses head and a lions body. We don't need a scripture verse to state the obvious. There's only three possibilities of what the body of Christ could be - God, man, or Satan. Definitely not Satan. Is it man? The body of Christ is man? It doesn't sound right. So I think the body of Christ is God.
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Originally Posted by Nell
(3) "Moment by moment repentance" I could find neither with Google, nor in the Bible, but I did find an article in the Christian Science Monitor which references the teachings of Mary Baker Eddy. https://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1012/p18s01-hfcs.html
“Automatic repentance” is also a curiosity.
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If we turn to the Lord continually through prayer, praise or thanksgiving, we are actually repenting continually. Repentance means to change ones mind or change our direction, and as we turn from our self to the Lord we are doing this. Many Christians confuse repentance with confession. Confession is where we admit our mistakes and sins to the Lord. It is possible to admit sins and mistakes but never actually turn to the Lord. This act of "repentance" can alleviate the person's conscience but there has been no genuine change because they have not touched the Lord's life.
There is a term in Christianity called "spiritual breathing" and moment by moment repentance is related to that. The concept is not foreign in Christianity.
For me it returned 135 hits on Google
Here is a few that are not CS related to my knowledge.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...e_Spirituality
https://godfactor.com/do-this-and-you-will-be-free/
https://banneroftruth.org/us/resourc...of-repentance/