Manna-man = Blue
I don't know if the turmoil means nothing, the turmoil is there for whatever reason. If we are wise we will notice that the turmoil is a symptom and we can search out the cause which has broken our corporate oneness.
Well that's an easy one bro Jr. The turmoil is caused by flesh, or attention to flesh, or the need for flesh.
The flesh is our most persistent realty. It's like my garden. The weeds grow faster than my crop, and if you cut them down, or pull them up, they'll still out grow the crop. Weeds are the most persistent plant in my garden, and flesh is my most persistent reality. Moreover, minus killing yourself, ya can't ever shake this fact.
And I'm not really talking about the nagging sinful flesh (the porn side you are a bigot of) , I'm talking also about the fact that
"we need it in the flesh" so bad, that we have to lift up people like Lee, and so many others. Its' like we have to have flesh in front of us to relate with God.
Then maybe we can turn to the Lord and be restored to the corporate oneness."In the LC"
I know what you want bro. You want us to all be really one, like Jesus said in John 17 : "As you and I are one," Jesus said to the Father.
Me too!!!!
It is obvious that corporately our oneness has been divided. At least in the LC.
Well the LC certainly does say "It's all about Christ." Just as "The Family" says "Jesus plus nothing." (Be sure to check out
The Family at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fam..._organization) They are the ones we need to look out for. They make the LC look like child's play.)
But back to the LC. The LC says "Christ is All and in All" and "Christ is our center," and lots of other great sounding cliches, but if you publicly resist "The Ministry," you'll see what their center truly is.
I submit that it wasn't me that started the turmoil in the LC. I didn't start the fight. I was going on in the LC, putting Christ as my center, just as happy as I could be, and wham, they hit me. They hit me with something that made something other than Christ as my center, and told me I had to be totally given to that, or get out. They, the authority structure in the LC, started that fight when they came to disturb my walk with Christ as my center.
Thus, bro Jr., they needed fleshly relations with God, and told me that I roo had to have fleshly relations with God. I was basically told, "You have to except our fleshly leader, and the fleshly authority coming from from him thru his loyal fleshly pinons, or get the hell out of here, you devil."
And they did that while shouting “Christ is All!”
But only fools follow the flesh. And that’s why we have the turmoil.
Individually we are one with the Lord.
But how can we be one if we are not one with the body of Christ? ( I speak of the LC crisis.)
What a paradox!
I know it's confusing, and it's hard to express in words. But really and truly, if "individually we are one with the Lord," then we are one with the body, as we are living members of his body by his indwelling. We can't not be one with the body. It's impossible. With the indweling Christ we are one like Jesus and the Father were one." Get it?
You know, the rest of Christianity has the same problem.
Same flesh, and fleshly needs.
Jesus is still Lord and I see that as His problem. I hope for the best in that case however I MUST go on.
Go on to where?
"And I can because I am not under the authority of the blended ones."
No one is, unless they want to be.....
"Can You" ( That questions for everyone.)
Yes. I'm doing it in this post, that you claim is Christless.