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Originally Posted by Nell

Cool? Are you serious? What Philip Lee did, what BenM did, what the Local Church men are continuing to this day is not "cool". There is nothing about this topic that is "cool".

What you've done in your speaking above, Nell... Is try to present a dishonest straw man... Which is quite poor conduct for a believer in Christ Jesus.

I said nor suggested that I was cool with anything regarding Philip Lee or BenM, or even what the Local Church is continuing to this day.

Originally Posted by Nell

I find this attitude of yours totally disgusting and repulsive.

And I should care what a person whose own words expose as being dishonest thinks of me.

Nell... I'll tell you what the Lord finds totally disgusting and repulsive... Dishonesty.

And if you were clear on what scripture reveals you'd know this.

Originally Posted by Nell

These men made no mistakes. They abused these sisters wilfully. Where is their repentance?

It certainly seems they are guilty as charged.

But their repentance is between them and the Lord.

According to scripture... Our need is to forgive.

Originally Posted by Nell

Where is their restitution for the horrible damage they have done to the Body of Christ, to the church, and to these women?

Scripture tells us that God's wheels of justice grind slowly, but finely.

I trust the Lord to gain what He needs to gain.

You should too.

Originally Posted by Nell

These men did not "stumble." They knew what they were doing and that is hideous sin.

Based on what I've read, I would think they did.

But if they were born again, their actions were indicative of falling/stumbling back into sin.

And if they were not saved... Their actions were simply those of a unbelievers.

Originally Posted by Nell

The Lord knows? I know, too. All you have to do is read the Bible.

I do read scripture... And I certainly know that the Lord knows... When I'm abiding in my spirit, where the Lord dwells one with me, and me one with the Lord.

Originally Posted by Nell

These sisters who were abused at the hands of Local Church men were not put there for an object lesson for sexual predators in the Local Church to "rebound from a 'stumble' or prevent a stumble'".

Absolutely.

But tell me... How many "Local Church men" are there in the world... And how many of these have committed this abuse?

I'm asking because you seem to have no problem casting aspersions across a very wide body of believers... In a very general way.

Originally Posted by Nell

Do you think these sisters think there was anything COOL about what they experienced?

Not at all.

Which is why I never said nor suggested they would be... Or I was.

But again... I understand why you seem intent on presenting a dishonest straw man.

Originally Posted by Nell

Did you read their testimonies?

What was presented on this thread, yes.

Originally Posted by Nell

Your agreement with Drake is the problem.

Not for me before the Lord.

And if it is a problem for you... Then you should take it before the Lord.

Originally Posted by Nell

This is how the cancer in the Local Church perpetuates itself.

Actually... No.

The cancer that is within the entire body is exactly that which has corrupted it for two thousand years...

And this corruption is exposed in your own dishonest speaking, as exposed in what I've quoted in this comment...

Speaking that is not of Christ.

Originally Posted by Nell

Do you think the Bible is "cool"? Maybe you should put more faith in the Bible than in Drake.

I know scripture is very cool.

And the faith that I have in scripture is the very same faith that the Lord has... And actually is... Just as scripture tells us.

And again, if you were clear on what scripture reveals you'd know this.

Originally Posted by Nell

Here's what the Bible says...


Matthew 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

This is certainly what scripture tells us...

And in your above dishonesty is exposed the evil/darkness that is being referenced.

Originally Posted by Nell

Your and Drake's comments are full of great darkness. God have mercy on your souls... Nell

Being born again and therefore eternally saved... God has most certainly had mercy on my soul... And if Drake can say the same... Hallelujah!

As for my comment being full of darkness (I can't speak for Drake)...

Having already exposed yourself as someone who doesn't seem to know the difference between honesty and dishonesty... At this point, your opinion has no value before the Lord.