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Old 01-17-2018, 07:52 PM   #26
Boxjobox
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Default The local church, the Work and the New Testament Ministry

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Originally Posted by Drake View Post
that's been done...... I explained in detail what the biblical definition of the NT work of ministry is... I have explained how the service of LSM fits that definition in service and their historical role for those local churches.

However, we moved on.....now we are at the point of having eliminated everything that LSM contributes to the local churches, to aron's great delight, so the question now on the table is what is the work of ministry for those local churches? ... using the Bible of course.

Thanks
Drake
Drake- you have definitions, I'll give you that. If I had the time, I would dig through and show the contradictions-Ohio did an excellent job a few posts back. The issue is not so much your or my " biblical definitions" as it was the effect of the LSM take over, or to give the light version, the LSM intrusion into the goings on in all the LCs. The effect was not a ministry of building unless one wanted to say- in the case of the c in SD, say the whole practice of the saints and elders was rotten and the whole thing needed to be torn down to the ground and rebuilt according to WL standards. But, actually the c in SD was doing just fine and the intrusion of LSM was destructive. Many dear, good saints left because of it- many! There is no comparison of WL's work with Paul's where you could arrive a working definition from scripture- in fact, I would say that WLs work is what Paul was warning the elders to watch out for. Paul went to churches and knew people and found out what was going on and was like a caring mother. WLs methodology was a one size, my way or the highway, bulldozer during the 80's. As far as I can tell, his only interest was to be sure his products were moving- his business!

Drake, don't waste your time trying with the ministry thing- it is not what LSM is- LSM is a business. The sooner you accept that, the less time you'll waste trying to convince people who went through the takeover that LSM is a ministry to the churches. WL took what W Née saw about the local churches and turned it into a merchandise business, its nice he wanted to leave his family an inheritance, but by establishing a business, the symplicity of what the LCs could have been today with the saints, the word, the gospel, the Holy Spiri, the fellowship the prayer, the love the caring, the ministry of the saints, would be enormous! Instead, the LCs now all have become a Tupperware organization for the LSM! Think and consider how the Church in Antioch was- that's how a LC should be. If the LCs could have developed like that, the Lord would have had his way beyond imagination.

Drake- urging you, brother, don't settle for the facade that is going on now. The LCs need to repent and open that door to the one who is outside knocking!

Off for cataract surgery tomorrow, hope to see clearer!
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