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awareness · 07-26-2009, 04:09 PM

YP:
>> I believe another "Lee" would have sprung forth eventually, if it weren't for the one we got.

Oh there's been lots of Lee's throughout history, and in the present too. Christians seem to attract bamboozlers. I think because they're very gullible, which makes them an easy mark. A broad look at Christians, from afar off, reveals they'll believe just about anything, and anyone, even when they know they're wrong ; like William Miller, the false prophet of 2 exact days of Jesus' return in the 19th century ; both wrong of course.

That's why brothers and sisters need to be careful about following men. Men are fallen, and I don't care about burying the old man, and becoming the new. The old man doesn't die, not in that way anyway. Sorry if you thought otherwise. Just believe your eyes and it's plain to see. Make no mistake about it, following men will always disappoint. If you don't beleive me, then learn this universal truth on your own.

YP:
>> It was inevitably going to happen under any "vision of the church" that was espoused. <<

Like I pointed out, believers are itching for such leaders. It's like their drug of choice. Without leaders that bamboozle them they are lost. I speak from experience. I was one of 'em. I've been bamboozled.

YP:
In actual fact, there IS and cannot be a "vision of the church" in a "universal" sense.

A "vision" of the universal church is the only way to see the universal church ; cuz it spans 20 centuries.

The local church runs on visions. Or actually on euphemisms, that provides the vision. The vision is a euphemism. It captures your attention while something else is going on ; something by men, and not the Spirit. Again, sorry if you thought otherwise. You'll learn...hopefully....

07-26-2009, 04:09 PM	#23
awareness Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,064	Visions YP: >> I believe another "Lee" would have sprung forth eventually, if it weren't for the one we got. Oh there's been lots of Lee's throughout history, and in the present too. Christians seem to attract bamboozlers. I think because they're very gullible, which makes them an easy mark. A broad look at Christians, from afar off, reveals they'll believe just about anything, and anyone, even when they know they're wrong ; like William Miller, the false prophet of 2 exact days of Jesus' return in the 19th century ; both wrong of course. That's why brothers and sisters need to be careful about following men. Men are fallen, and I don't care about burying the old man, and becoming the new. The old man doesn't die, not in that way anyway. Sorry if you thought otherwise. Just believe your eyes and it's plain to see. Make no mistake about it, following men will always disappoint. If you don't beleive me, then learn this universal truth on your own. YP: >> It was inevitably going to happen under any "vision of the church" that was espoused. << Like I pointed out, believers are itching for such leaders. It's like their drug of choice. Without leaders that bamboozle them they are lost. I speak from experience. I was one of 'em. I've been bamboozled. YP: In actual fact, there IS and cannot be a "vision of the church" in a "universal" sense. A "vision" of the universal church is the only way to see the universal church ; cuz it spans 20 centuries. The local church runs on visions. Or actually on euphemisms, that provides the vision. The vision is a euphemism. It captures your attention while something else is going on ; something by men, and not the Spirit. Again, sorry if you thought otherwise. You'll learn...hopefully.... __________________ Cults: My brain will always be there for you. Thinking. So you don't have to. There's a serpent in every paradise.