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micah6v8 · 01-07-2018, 10:27 AM

Eph 4 v 11 to 13:-
11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers,
12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up
13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

One thing I learnt from non-LSM Christian literature is to set aside the “sacred-secular” divide. Some have had this divide where the “spiritual/sacred” parts of their lives (eg serving in church) belongs to a “higher”/important sphere while the ordinary day-to-day life (e.g. having a job in a bank) belongs to a lower, spiritually less significant sphere.
Where one has such a “sacred-secular” divide, one might end up with a compartmentalised view of life, viewing his “secular” Monday-Friday job as nothing more than a place to make a living. He would think that his job is only really valuable when the sacred invades it from time to time (e.g. where he has an opportunity to preach to a colleague during a lunch break).
Before the fall of man in Genesis, man was actually called to work in the garden; just as God had Himself taken on the “secular” work of creation (in His six days). Our “secular” work is actually God’s work for us.

Why do I talk about this in this thread?

I think the problem in the Lord’s Recovery is that many in the local churches have not set aside the “sacred-secular” divide:- As a result, they see that the only way to “function” is by participating in the “sacred” sphere. Eg if he is not speaking in a meeting or doing some church-related work (e.g. Serving in Bread and Cups/ Serving the Youths in church), he thinks he is not doing God’s work and “not functioning”. Not prophesying in the Lord's table meeting is seen as "not functioning"! And who wouldn't want to do God's work/function? Everyone has heard the parable of the Master admonishing the slave who did not use his one talent.

Actually, the role of the vocational ministers (those in verse 11….whom are sometimes attributed as the “clergy” or “full-timers”) is to equip the rest of the believers mentioned in verse 12 (whom are sometimes attributed “the laity”) so these believers can do their various God-given works (usually their “secular” jobs) effectively. The goal really is to grow in Christlikeness (Verse 13.)

01-07-2018, 10:27 AM	#207
micah6v8 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 90	Re: How many people have heard of LSM/Lee/Recovery Eph 4 v 11 to 13:- 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. One thing I learnt from non-LSM Christian literature is to set aside the “sacred-secular” divide. Some have had this divide where the “spiritual/sacred” parts of their lives (eg serving in church) belongs to a “higher”/important sphere while the ordinary day-to-day life (e.g. having a job in a bank) belongs to a lower, spiritually less significant sphere. Where one has such a “sacred-secular” divide, one might end up with a compartmentalised view of life, viewing his “secular” Monday-Friday job as nothing more than a place to make a living. He would think that his job is only really valuable when the sacred invades it from time to time (e.g. where he has an opportunity to preach to a colleague during a lunch break). Before the fall of man in Genesis, man was actually called to work in the garden; just as God had Himself taken on the “secular” work of creation (in His six days). Our “secular” work is actually God’s work for us. Why do I talk about this in this thread? I think the problem in the Lord’s Recovery is that many in the local churches have not set aside the “sacred-secular” divide:- As a result, they see that the only way to “function” is by participating in the “sacred” sphere. Eg if he is not speaking in a meeting or doing some church-related work (e.g. Serving in Bread and Cups/ Serving the Youths in church), he thinks he is not doing God’s work and “not functioning”. Not prophesying in the Lord's table meeting is seen as "not functioning"! And who wouldn't want to do God's work/function? Everyone has heard the parable of the Master admonishing the slave who did not use his one talent. Actually, the role of the vocational ministers (those in verse 11….whom are sometimes attributed as the “clergy” or “full-timers”) is to equip the rest of the believers mentioned in verse 12 (whom are sometimes attributed “the laity”) so these believers can do their various God-given works (usually their “secular” jobs) effectively. The goal really is to grow in Christlikeness (Verse 13.)