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Originally Posted by Evangelical

You must employ logic because you know that the scripture supports my view.

I know that a misreading of scripture supports your view. Nice to see you admit that you are not employing logic. Neither are you using knowledge or wisdom. Lets go back to Isaiah 9:6. Ask yourself why, when Jesus is always called the Son in the New Testament would the prophet call him the Father and not the Son some eight centuries before he was born.

There are no verses which says Jesus is not the Father and Jesus is not the Spirit. In contrast, I can quote verses that say plainly that He is.

Your method is called "proof texting", that is, you take isolated, out-of-context quotations from the Bible and use them to support Witness Lee's system of thought rather than the original intent of the author.

Don't forget, I sat at the feet of Witness Lee when he gave his Life Study Trainings. To Lee the whole Bible was a proof text for his systematized error [ see Ephesians 4:14 Darby Translation]

Anyway, the Trinity doctrine has similar logical challenges. For example, if we truly believe that Jesus is God, is not God praying to God?

From a Trinitarian view John 17 is God the Son praying to God the Father a view that doesn't undermine the integrity of the entire chapter as does your interpretation that has Jesus babbling to himself like a delusional schizophrenic.

Seems to me that it's a case of a doctrine being squeezed into the bible rather than the bible speaking for itself. If I believe God is in 3 persons then I'm a Trinitarian. I disagree on the details based on the plain wording of Scripture (both that Christ is the Spirit and Jesus is the Father has scriptural support).

Strong support for the Trinitarian view comes from the Gospel of John. What you call a "plain" reading ignores the prologue in the first chapter which begins " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." You read it "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God." It seems that there is no God for the Word to be with in your mind.

According to this theory which you got from Witness Lee, Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Critics of Lee's doctrine were right to point out the similarities of Lee's doctrine to that of the Sabellian heresy and the Oneness Pentecostals.

Lee particularly hated the latter comparison because of the low esteem in which Oneness Pentecostals are held by evangelicals generally. Publishers retreated from defense of books like The God-Men an Inquiry Into Witness Lee & the Local Church because of the costly law suits filed by Lee and his supporters.

In order to be a member of the Witness Lee's Church in good standing, you have to accept his strange doctrines. This makes a mockery of the claim that Lee's movement represents the meeting of Christians as one in the city where they live. Lee's so-called" Local Church" movement is just one more Christian Sect.