[UntoHim]

If God din't die on the cross then we are still in our sins and under the same condemnation as Adam.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6

Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).
Mathew 1:23

Just because Witness Lee used these verses to push his unbiblical, modalistic misinterpretations does not negate the clear prophesy that the Messiah was titled as The mighty God and The everlasting Father. Abraham was not called to sacrifice another ram, but his very own son - of his own flesh and blood. Although God stopped Abraham short of actually sacrificing his son, God did not withhold his very own Son from being sacrificed on the cross. If God was going to accept the sacrifice of a mortal, finite, created creature as the final and ultimate sacrifice for the sins of his people, and even mankind and the world, he would have accepted the sacrifice of the ram that Abraham sacrificed that day.

I think it's worth noting a relevant excerpt from the Nicene Creed:

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.

I understand that our longtime friend Boxjobox would like to interpret Isaiah 9:6 and Mathew 1:23 though the lens of a Unitarian, but the simple fact is that the vast majority of the early church and church fathers concluded that God is One Being (as noted in the Shema "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one") yet within this One Being, this One God, there is mysteriously three Persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It should be of note that historic, orthodox Trinitarian teaching is based in and upon these verses, and not the other way around.

I can see that you are having a spirited dialogue over on the Alt Views forum, and I think it would be best if you continue this line of argumentation over there. For all his faults, Witness Lee was at least roughly (if not very roughly) within the pale of Christian trinitarianism, so I think arguments against the traditional teachings, doctrines and creeds might be best waged over on Alt Views.
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