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Old 12-17-2017, 04:41 PM   #106
kumbaya
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Drake, I believe you, and that highlights a problem.

In order to defend the LC system, one must be a little heartless. I know I was there too. When it came to protecting LSM and LC leadership, all members became *expendable*. That's just how it was.

But not so with the Lord Jesus.

Consider how compassionate He was with all those seeking God in that intolerable system in Jerusalem. He was the Good Shepherd who would leave the 99, just to care for the one lost ewe lamb. He was the Good Samaritan who would bind up the wounds of the downtrodden whom their leaders and trainers considered "not good material." He was the Door of the sheep for all those locked in oppressive legalistic systems, thinking all is well because that's all they knew, yet vulnerable to thieves and robbers who held them in fear.


I truely do not see how ANYONE can defend the history of this business- I don't care WHAT they're selling. The "seller" has a rotten history and they're selling what I believe is some truth/some twisted truths/some questionable truths in order to control other Christians.

I think I've mentioned that I don't have a problem with EVERYTHING WL says, he's saying a lot of the same things brothers before him did, right?

Just recently I came across some writings of A.Z. Tozer and was so surprised at how SIMILAR the writings were. There was a lot of life there!

The problem is, LSM material consists a bunch of different writings on subjects from the Bible to how to practically live the church life. It's all packaged up and sold and the unspoken influence by "branding" these writings with the LSM stamp is that believers take it ALL as truth. WL literally wrote a playbook on how to interpret EVERY single thing in the Bible (when there are still highly debated topics), and wrote out best "practices" for how to live the modern day church life. It's GOD'S ECONOMY.

Has anyone watched Leah Remini's documentary about Scientology? Of course, I'm NOT comparing the two as having the same degrees of severity but the tactic is the same. The doc talks about all the "policies"- basically ways to function in life practically as a Scientologist, and I couldn't help thinking it sounded familiar!

Why is WL telling us all how to "practically live our Christian life?" On one hand he might say to follow your Spirit but on the other he'll say what could or couldn't be your Spirit due to following the flow in God's economy. It's all so confusing so people just tune it out and accept what the culture is without questioning....

The thing is, he's not the first person to claim to have seen the full truth and he won't be the last.

These tactics are used in Scientology and other cults and its a shame to see them used here....

It's the HIGH TRUTH scam, the eliteness of being in a group of people who have the highest truth.

No, you shouldn't raise yourself like that above other believers. We're all in the body of Christ, right?

What Christian organizations does the LC work with? none.

What charity work do they participate in? none.

It's ALL about getting college kids (which another red flag practice is not using their real name) and spreading THEIR version of the truth.

The people making the decisions to do this also run LSM, a business.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong bc I still do NOT WANT TO BE RIGHT.

I'd rather have the hard truth than an easy lie though.

Sorry about the crudeness of this quote but it applies...

"The truth will set you free. But first it will piss you off."
-Gloria Steinem

I can admit that's how I've been feeling! I do think I'm somewhat passed the anger though and now just feel sad. Trying to get to that acceptance part.

Anyone else want to talk about the process they had to go through after leaving? I realize someday I won't be so emotional about the whole thing. I just naturally want to protect and defend my family from it and I can't.

It's a very strange feeling to feel so strongly that you're right but not WANT TO BE.

I'm just trying to sort out the feeling that it was all just a lie that my dad fell for and how that doesn't necessarily mean it was this huge travesty for us and we can move on.
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