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Good study bibles will summarize alternate interpretations even if the author favors one over the others. Also, responsible authors will give credit to the originators of certain interpretations, if such is known.
Lee did neither of these things.
Most of Lee's eschatology was inherited by his exposure to the teachings of the Plymouth brethren, but where does he give an acknowledgement in the RCV? This borders on plaigerism, at least morally if not legally.

Great info Timo. Thank You soo much. You are absolutely right on about good study bibles and correct Lee never gave credit to the originators of certain interpretations. He simply stated he 'stood on shoulders' of such people like Watchman Nee & the Plymouth Brethren, gathering some other info from Pember.

God has used authors, such as Clarence Larkin to give me an excellent understanding of the book of Revelation and the Dispensational Truth and Rightly Dividing the Word. Larkin was an American born in the 1800s and died in 1925. He has several books that explain the Creation and the Pre-Adamic age. In fact, he uses the famous 3 inner circles we all thought, OR at least I THOUGHT came from Nee. But Nee was born around 1918 I believe. He would have been a toddler or a very young child to come up with the 3 circles! Larkin has amazing charts!! Keep in mind he DIED in 1925, publishing much of his work 2-3 years before his death and 2 decades before ISRAEL was restored as a nation!

But he is not the only author I refer to. There are others.

Like many, I had no relationship with the LORD before I got saved, or at best a very shallow one. I had never read the bible. Religion was a turn off for me as was for most of us. Everything I learned in the LC was Revelation to me. Little did I know, the LORD had not anointed Lee to be the 'oracle of this age' as we were led to believe. He and Nee did not come up with the 3 circles we are soo familiar with!

I'm not saying God did not use Nee & Lee but for them, especially Lee, but the LSM is somehow convinced no one has ever been used by God, like Lee was. How pathetic to believe this!

Darby and the PB movement deserve credit where credit is due, and criticism where criticism is due. I very much doubt if Lee would have believed in a pre-trib rapture of the overcomers had he not been led that way by Darby's theories.

I happen to be Pre-Trib but Lee's explanation of the rapture is so incredibly confusing. I don't consider him Pre-Trib. And I certainly do NOT agree with his view that the first horseman of the apocalypse is the gospel! SHEESH! No wonder his Rapture theory is all confused! I'll go into that in another thread. I've done a LOT of research on the Trib theories..Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, which I think, Lee probably leans more on. Not sure 'cause his explanation as I said, is soooo confusing! and there is the Post Trib view. There is also Pre-Wrath, Pre-Millinielsism, and Post-Millinealism and then there is a branch who are Preterists and the Kingdom Now bunch. Personally, I live as if the LORD is coming any day now but carry on as if He could delay as well. I sure hope we are not around for the TRIB, especially the last half! Life is getting more & more difficult as it is and the world is growing darker by the day! BUT IF we are, God will certainly supply us supernaturally I believe for the sake of the Gospel and to His GLORY.

I happen to know why Lee believed that the 24 elders were angelic beings, for my personal research led me to the source of the interpretation.
The book of Enoch, which is considered non-canonical, contains within it a very detailed description of heaven and the angelic order.

Ohhhhhhhhhh ! He read the book of Enoch and never shared it with us (to my knowledge.) I get it now! I wonder if Albert & Bilbo from the other forum know this ??? If they do, they have not revealed it and probably won't. I have been wanting to read the book of Enoch but have not gotten a hold of it yet. Now, I can't comment on it because I have not read it, but from what I have heard, it is a very, insightful and very good book. That said, there IS an order of hierchy among the angels for the Word of God describes to some extent the Cherubim, the Seraphim, and each of us have angels assigned to us. Those I know who have commented on it have NEVER said the angels had crowns/thrones..just an hierchy. But I don't know what it says for sure. Btw, I'm reading a very good book on Angels right now called Angels that gather by Paul Keith Davis.

And by comparing this description to that of John's vision, one could come to the conclusion that the 24 elders are angels.

Do you know if the book describes them with crowns & sitting on thrones or at best eludes that they would? Like I said, I do believe there is a heavenly hierchy among them. Lucifer was the chief musician and the closest angel to God I think.

But where does Lee refer to Enoch to support this interpretation? He would not, because this would be criticized. Instead, it is thrown out there in the footnotes as an assertion without explanation or supporting evidence.

But of course! Imagine having the book of Enoch at the LC bookstore!

THANKS for the heads up Timotheous! We all learned something from you today! Carol