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Originally Posted by Koinonia
There was probably no alternative. That's what makes the current discussion irrelevant.
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Isn't the very existence of alternatives against the concept of oneness?
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Originally Posted by Koinonia
You don't need to "try to be" something. You either are, or you're not. And your group does not equal "the church." You are taking a spiritual principle and applying it narrowly. Your group and "the church" are not the same thing.
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As believers we are "the church" are we not? For example, if our bodies were cut into 4 parts and sent to different places, they would still be "us".. Similarly, one group here and one group there are all the church. But dename-iations are really taking away the focus that we are all the church.
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Originally Posted by Koinonia
If there even is such a thing ("true local expression"), I'll let God take care of it. It is the height of presumption to claim such a designation for oneself. I'm sure the Lord is not happy with it.
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You are saying it is presumptions to claim to be the true local expression and on the other hand you say the church is believers. But if we are believers are we not also the true local expression?