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Old 10-10-2017, 01:12 AM   #61
aron
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Default Re: The Center of the Universe

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Originally Posted by Evangelical View Post
Those items don't actually exist of course. They are just metaphors for some spiritual truth....
And the Centurion in Luke 7 had no power unless he was a "man under authority" - i.e. he was connected to the will of Caesar in Rome, and expressed his wishes. But the Centurion was not Caesar.

There is a thing called "agency". Something comes out from something else, and expresses it. But the thing that comes out is not the thing that sent it. The President sends the Secretary of State, who speaks for the President. But the SS is not the President.

Likewise, the angel Gabriel spoke to Mary, but the message, even from God, was not carried by God, but by a designated representative. I wear shoes and gloves, but my shoes and gloves are not the same thing.

All of this is fairly common sense reading, and can be expected to be understood, unless you are mesmerised by someone's pseudo-spirituality.

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The Bible is like a big jigsaw puzzle with thousands of pieces scattered throughout it. We need to put all the pieces together to have the complete picture. . . During the past seventy years we’ve been putting together the pieces of this great "puzzle." Now we have a picture of the whole Bible.. ~Witness Lee, Life-Study of Proverbs chapter 8
I also like puzzles. I see several possible answers.

1. Lee put out 6 different "centers of the universe" at various times, speaking about different aspects of the same thing, and I just don't get it, in spite of your repeated attempts to help. This just shows my obstinacy.

2. Lee put out ideas at whim, and the LC masses were too befuddled to notice when the ideas didn't line up with each other. My "brainwashed" hypothesis.

3. Many in the LC did notice that Lee and Nee occasionally (often?) contradicted themselves but were afraid to point it out. Don't want to be seen as being negative. "Even when he's wrong he's right" - how could this saying emerge if Lee was not wrong, sometimes?

This is seen in the gospels with the Jews who believed that Jesus was the Christ but wouldn't openly say it, for fear of being put out of the synagogues.

Back to the first post. How can Protestantism be 'christless' if "Everything is Christ"? This requires a different reading. And under this new reading, if Protestantism is christless then the Lord's Recovery of Lee is perhaps doubly so. With what measure you measure, you are measured.
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