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Old 09-29-2017, 04:48 PM   #1657
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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My approach to bible prophecy is to follow the Generations of Noah and consider the significance of that as related to the nations which will be around during the end times. I find this to be a more robust approach than merely cherry picking verses and trying to figure out how they fit into the bigger picture. It's like trying to complete a jig saw puzzle piece by piece. The Generations of Noah gives us a complete picture of what the "jig saw puzzle" looks like and then we can relate the verses.

We can say confidently that whatever is described concerning Noahs sons will also apply in the end times. This is because of God's order, sovereignty and arrangement. If the bible says God blesses one of Noah's sons, then that nation that is derived from that son will be blessed in the future. Similarly, a nation said to be cursed, like Cush, will not be blessed over time. Cush was a sub-Saharan African and upon whom the curse of Ham fell. Is it only coincidence that nations coming from Cush are not blessed today as much as the sons of Japheth (Western nations)? As Jeremiah 13:23 says - can a Cush ite change his skin?

It's a sign of the PC times I guess that whenever a person's skin color is mentioned then it automatically must mean racism. To clarify my statement about dark people, I do not believe the bible is racist, as it does not attribute skin color as a cause. But generally speaking it does refer to skin color as a consequence. Skin color and health is related, for example we say a person can "turn green with envy", "blue in the face" etc. Color of the skin is not a cause, but a consequence. In other words, the bible does not "overlook" nations of dark people in bible prophecy just because they are dark, but because of what that darkness represented and how it came about. Of greater significance, is the spiritual darkness that is present in Africa and India, that is darker than most other nations with their worship of demons and other evil things.

We can say that God's blessing is not on these nations and for this reason they have not achieved greatness in order to feature significantly in end times events. I can say fairly confidently that no nation that is predominantly comprised of dark people, features significantly (as significantly as USA, Russia, China etc) in bible prophecy. Anyone can check these facts for themselves.

Dark nations in general are covered by Isaiah 18 and any other references to Cush in the Bible. This includes India who are descended from Cush and possibly Shem and Put as well. They are obviously involved but are not major players in end times events.

It is also no coincidence that India is South of Israeli and Russia (kingdom of the North, or Magog). Just as Ethiopia , Egypt etc were South of the ancient Magog. Possibly the exact location of each nation is God's arrangement such that end times prophecy can be fulfilled. God arranged the tectonic plates such that certain nations would reside north, south, east and west of Israel.

To put this another way, if India was located in the region of Iceland, it would be hard to see how the bible prophesy concerning Northern and Southern kingdoms could be true. It is likely significant that there are no nations of dark skinned people in Northern latitudes today or in the end times. Even nature tells us that animals, such as arctic wolves and polar bears that live in high latitudes are white, not black. It would be strange for us to see a polar bear living in Africa or India. But God has ordained these types of animals to live in certain parts of the world.

I could put this another way - in the end times there will be no African or Indian superpower to revival the power of the USA, Russia, China that plays a major role in end times events concerning Israel. The strongest kingdoms are the Northern ones - USA, Russia, China, which all exist at Northern latitudes. These nations are also predominantly lighter skinned than those living in the Southern/equatorial regions. It would be hard for anyone to argue that this is not according to God's arrangement as it relates to bible prophecy.
Spoken like a true racist. How dark does one have to be to be dark in your book?
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