[Drake]

John>"The poster seems to admit that he has met husbands in the Local Church who verbally mistreated their wives, but he makes it sound as if it is a rare thing. If he thinks so, then he hasn’t read The Thread of Gold, has forgotten what is in it, or has some other reason or reasons."

Hey John. I really like your Lake Wobegone story telling style. It's kinda folksy yet with a hint of rage just below the surface. Keeps it entertaining. Its like you'd prefer to be blunt "hey, that's my wife you're talking about!" but smooth the anger over with long winded stories. And yet, its there in every paragraph. Exciting.

This poster, Drake, did not admit to meeting husbands in the Local Church who verbally abused their wives as you surmise. In fact, I cannot recall ever meeting even one. Does not mean they didn't, I'm not omnipresent and don't know what happens at home. But you are making the argument that it is woven into the local church fabric moreso than anywhere else. Yet, the examples you use do not indicate a male bias issue. For instance, the elder who slams the desk and yells about the evils of fornication indicates intemperance, not male bias. As I read each of your examples I do not see male bias nor any uniqueness to the local church.

Furthermore, Brother Lee long ago talked about the sisters meeting the Lord, touching Him on the morning of the resurrection, and the other biblical examples of sister firsts you mentioned. Though it's fine to use those examples to make your point it's not fine to present them like they are revelations uniquely revealed to Jane. Give credit where it is due John. Brother Lee spoke of these matters long ago now.

And yes, I did read Jane's first book cover to cover. Sorry John, I don't see male bias in it. Rather, I see a detailed account of a train wreck unfolded in slo mo.

Yet, rather than respond to "this poster" I suggest you respond in a scholarly way to the points made by those posters Evangelical, Ohio, and ZNP. They have posed reasonable arguments and questions.

Drake