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Old 09-19-2017, 06:18 AM   #176
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Default Re: New Jane Anderson Website

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
#13: The Big Lemon: Genesis 3:16 (Part 3)

“God was warning Eve that because of her turning to Adam, Adam would rule over her. Rather than a command for the man to rule over woman, this was a warning to Eve of what was going to happen to her as a consequence of her choice.”
This quote is neither from the Bible nor does it contain the word "help"... implying "help with the kids". You said:

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
Either way why would God be warning the woman not to "turn to" the man for help?

The question is if a change in translation of this verse from the word "desire" to "turn to" results in changing the interpretation to God warning the woman not to turn to man for help.
Short answer...it didn't and He didn't. "Desire" and "turning" are two different things. "Desire" implies physical desire, and historically a man's desire toward a woman is epically stronger than a woman's desire toward a man. That's why "desire" is not a good fit.

Gen. 3:16 isn't about Eve asking Adam for help raising the kids, or not. That wasn't what the warning was about. The warning was that there would be consequences if she "turned to" and relied on man, instead of God, to meet her needs. Her needs were greater than man has the capacity to meet, and worse, man would rule over her .... and he still wouldn't help with the kids! Remember, she was to be his helper, not the other way around! We can almost hear him saying "and don't you forget it!"

Practically speaking, this paragraph could represents half of the problems in marriages on the earth today. That's why "turning" is a better fit than "desire". The truth is, apart from God, neither men nor women can meet the needs of the other. Man "ruling over" woman is the trump card that buries her.

This is a woman's perspective. No man's perspective can change the way she views this issue because she is still living with the consequences of her decision to this day.

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