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Right on Nell. Thanks much. I think I understand now, what Jane's mission is. It's to start a spiritual revival like never seen before.
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No. awareness. That's not it. Jane can't start a spiritual revival. That's not her mission. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. This is what Jane said on the topic:
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"I believe that when both men and women begin to acknowledge and correct the part they each play in the perpetuation of this great offense, healing will begin. The church and the earth will begin to experience a fresh outpouring of spiritual life. There will be a spiritual revival the likes of which have never been seen. Such a revival is certainly needed in the times in which we live."
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When Christian men and women are clean...repentant of offenses to the Body of Christ,
there will be a spiritual revival. Jane can only take care of her own spiritual condition. John can only take care of his own spiritual condition. I can only take care of my spiritual condition. God is clean. God is Holy. God is right. He gave his Son that we could be forgiven of our sins. This is the great need of the church today...repentance for our own sins, and sins against each other...Christian men and Christian women in the church.
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And it's about time Christian men and women come to know, believe, and practice equality of men and women in the body of Christ.
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Based on what? Social justice? The women's movement? No. Rather, such beliefs and practices in the Body must be based on God's Word.
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Is there a way to reach churches that teach and practice otherwise here in Kentucky ; a way that doesn't result in a running out on a rail? Sadly, a man will have to do it. Cuz they won't listen to women.
And that's why, those that need it, like Lee's Recovery movement, won't listen to Jane.
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You can't really control what others teach or practice. That's not why you begin to speak what you have seen and heard. If they tar and feather you, or ride you out of town on a rail, so be it. You first have to be convinced in your own mind what God's word actually teaches. If God tells you to speak, obey Him. Then be willing to pay the price for whatever criticism may come your way...such as that which John and Jane have endured from you and other men on this forum. That's where you start. Again, it's not about social justice for women in the church. It's about the truth of God's Word. Today's "women's movement" is little more than a poor counterfeit of God's heart toward women.
As you have stated...
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Me too bro Drake. I think Bushnell and Jane are barking up the wrong tree. But I do support equality for women. And that's pretty much been accomplished, except in some - many here - churches, where women are held in subjection.
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What tree is that? What tree are Jane and Bushnell "barking up?"
Some progress has been made in the church by genuine believers who practice the truth of God's word toward women. Yet much of today's "women's equality" is secular. Much of what has been "accomplished" today has been done by
unbelievers. Of course, not all are unbelievers, but many are. This is the great counterfeit. This is not what Jane and Katharine Bushnell are discussing. Unbelievers have nothing to do with the Body of Christ.
It's not about "unregenerate men and women's word to women". It's about GOD'S WORD TO WOMEN.
Now. Read it again:
This was posted on December 4, 2016: The Message, The Mission
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