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Evangelical · 08-30-2017, 05:37 AM

The problem for you is that the commentaries are not "looking for more than is there". That would be people like Jane etc. The commentaries are often just stating the most obvious, plain and correct reading of the text. What's the chances that they all are being "modern rabbis"? They are all independent commentaries I believe, by different people in different times, yet they generally agree, and on this matter they agree.

You must wish so bad that they would have said like Jane (paraphrased) "the translators had male bias and therefore they are lemon passages that have to be de-lemonised by changing this verse adding a question mark here and there, and I'm not an expert but I hope the experts will fix these verses up that don't agree with my view". That approach is "looking for more than is there".

Then you would be the one able to quote bible commentaries to support your view, not me.

I don't know what you hope to accomplish by trying to make this about Paul versus Christ or the gospels versus Paul's letters. That is not a wise thing to do. Paul as Christ's apostle was doing and writing what Christ told him to do and say. There should be no question that Paul's commands to the church are Christ's commands. The Christ in the gospels is the same Christ speaking through Paul in his letters.

08-30-2017, 05:37 AM	#256
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: Women's Role The problem for you is that the commentaries are not "looking for more than is there". That would be people like Jane etc. The commentaries are often just stating the most obvious, plain and correct reading of the text. What's the chances that they all are being "modern rabbis"? They are all independent commentaries I believe, by different people in different times, yet they generally agree, and on this matter they agree. You must wish so bad that they would have said like Jane (paraphrased) "the translators had male bias and therefore they are lemon passages that have to be de-lemonised by changing this verse adding a question mark here and there, and I'm not an expert but I hope the experts will fix these verses up that don't agree with my view". That approach is "looking for more than is there". Then you would be the one able to quote bible commentaries to support your view, not me. I don't know what you hope to accomplish by trying to make this about Paul versus Christ or the gospels versus Paul's letters. That is not a wise thing to do. Paul as Christ's apostle was doing and writing what Christ told him to do and say. There should be no question that Paul's commands to the church are Christ's commands. The Christ in the gospels is the same Christ speaking through Paul in his letters.