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Originally Posted by UntoHim
This opening post by Evangelical brings forth some very legitimate arguments.
Let's take a break from addressing some of these peripheral and esoteric issues,
such as head covering and length of hair, and get back to the heart of the matter. - |
UntoHim,
What exactly
is the "heart of the matter"? Were we ever "there", making it possible to "get back" to the heart?
Based on the "Evangelical" body of work, it's difficult for me to accept the arguments of this man, flowery as they may be, as anything but a mysogynist in sheep's clothing. Woman was created as a "help" to man, but this mysogynist has defined "help" from a mans-eye-view and refused to consider any other perspective. Is it conceivable that God would help man through woman, and some help is only available from a woman?
Is the heart of the matter---the role of woman---that of a helper? If so, how can a woman help a man? Is it conceivable that God created woman to be a
spiritual help to man? Is it conceivable that helpers, such as Jane Carole Anderson, are gifted with a spiritual perspective, unseen by man, but intended by God to help men to see woman as HE sees woman?
This forum is blessed with a few men who are willing accept spiritual insight and perspective from a woman---to be helped by a woman---but I don't see Evangelical as one of those men. For a man to receive help from anyone, either male or female, they must (1) put aside their ego and be willing to admit, or submit, to the possibility that they actually need help. (2) In order to be helped by a woman, men must LISTEN to a woman. That means, hear her out with an open mind BEFORE determining the sex of the speaker and dismissing her according to your predetermined gender bias. That means,
read what she says (such as Jane Carol Anderson's book/s) and not comment on what you "think" she says, but what she actually SAYS---in context and not piece meal comments here and there. (3) People are sometimes ignorant of their need for help.
Evangelical doesn't know everything. Evangelical, you don't know everything. All members need to realize their place in the Body as needing all the other members. Women in the Body, and women in general, were given the specific designation of "helper". God indeed also speaks through female members of the body---women. Women were set in the Body as it pleased HIM. Not you.
If God made the woman as a helper, why do men refuse her help? Or, why do men only accept her help if it passes through his man-filter? Some men you just can't help. It's not only your loss, but loss to the Body.
Nell