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Originally Posted by Drake
ZNP"Is there a basis in the Greek to say that the word teach in this chapter is somehow different from the other chapters?"
I don't know about the Greek part... but in general it appears Paul's concern here and in 1 Cor 11, 14.. and the special case in Rev 2, is about authority in God's government.
ZNP" Also, apart from the Apostles who gets to "define doctrine"? Wasn't the NT doctrine defined in the New Testament?"
True. But when these letters were written the saints did not have the NT. And even though we have had the NT for sometime that did not prevent heresies from Mary Baker Eddy and Ellen White from cropping up and others.
ZNP "Also what does "to be in quietness" mean? How is it distinct from "following dumb idols"?"
Paul knew the difference and all may prophesy so in quietness must be related to his primary concern... in the first point above.
Drake
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This is also how I read it. The context of the portions that "forbid a woman to speak" are related to "authority in God's government" -- though I would just say decisions made by the church, especially related to the community of unbelievers and the God ordained authority that the church is to submit to. Quietness is clearly distinct from "following dumb idols" but in the context of the relation with local community suggests not provoking outrage, disturbances and other things that would prevent the church from existing in peace.
What has disturbed me the most about the general debate concerning women's role (not this thread in particular) is the total lack of context as people throw out the quotes. Every single company forbids their employees to speak to the press and and any inquiries by the press are to be directed to the proper authority. No one sees that as sexist but rather practical and prudent. It smacks of hypocrisy to me.