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Old 08-12-2017, 03:24 PM   #106
John
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Originally Posted by Evangelical View Post
I understand that how we define "church" matters here. To me, if a church is a gathering of believers, then the 12 disciples were a church. Judas would be a tare sowed by Satan.
I was planning to address all or most of Evangelical’s comments, but then my eyes fell on this by him, which warrants special attention:
Judas would be a tare sowed by Satan.
Evangelical initially included Judas as a church leader. Now he has stated that Judas was sown by Satan into the group of twelve disciples (which he called the church). Here is what the Bible states:
Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?" (John 6:70, NASB)
The Bible does not tell us that Jesus chose only eleven disciples and Satan picked the twelfth. It tells us that Jesus chose all twelve disciples—including Judas. His choosing was according to God’s plan. To state that Satan sowed Judas as a tare is to state a blatant falsehood.

Actually, what Evangelical has written is libel against God—or what’s known as blasphemy. He is basically calling God a liar by stating that Satan, not God, put Judas into the group of twelve disciples. For his own sake before God, he should retract this statement and repent for making it.
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