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Originally Posted by djohnson
Ohio I think you are missing the point i.e. getting lost in among the trees and missing the forest.
Was the audience forced to go and listen to Chen or did they voluntarily assemble? My guess is the latter. Was anyone forced to view the YouTube streams and read the materials or listen to a podcast or CD of Chen? Probably not. I don't have any podcasts on my ipod by Chen or any of the other Blended Babbler do you? But probably some people have chosen to do so.
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DJ,
The biggest problem that I have with your discussions on control, free will, and the like, is that you are taking the position that only willful control of people who don't want to allow it constitutes control. No matter how hard you come back to this position, you are simply wrong. Control includes the slow an methodical changing of the minds of people so that they do what you want on cue and they are happy to do it. To keep coming back to this "there's no gun to their head" notion is simply ignorant. There's more ways to control than by guns, chains, ropes, etc.